Why is Messianic Judaism considered Judaism if they believe in Jesus?

[danny ski]

People should really try to read the Torah regarding sacrifices instead of relying on commentaries.

 

[Torah Emunah]

People should really try to read the Torah regarding sacrifices instead of relying on commentaries.

I couldn't agree more! The scriptures related to korban are among the most important, meaningful, and beautiful passages that there are. It is very irritating how they are generally pushed aside by Christians, and Messianics (they were relegated to some kind of a "rehearsal" in this very thread) as if they were some kind of meaningless, ineffectual, and temporary thing. How sad is that, Danny?


Shalom

 

[danny ski]

I couldn't agree more! The scriptures related to korban are among the most important, meaningful, and beautiful passages that there are. It is very irritating how they are generally pushed aside by Christians, and Messianics (they were relegated to some kind of a "rehearsal" in this very thread) as if they were some kind of meaningless, ineffectual, and temporary thing. How sad is that, Danny?


Shalom

That. And where is it written in the Torah that one can just break commandments and then just offer sacrifice? That's the fundamental misunderstanding of the sacrificial system.

 

[Torah Emunah]

That. And where is it written in the Torah that one can just break commandments and then just offer sacrifice?

Nowhere is that written.

That's the fundamental misunderstanding of the sacrificial system.

Agreed.

If one wants to get to know the Creator for the very first time, or deepen their understanding of Him through the use of the scriptures, studies in korban, and teshuva are undoubtedly the best places to start, in my opinion.


Shalom

 

[MissRowy]

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[mercy1061]

Well it had a different purpose. The torah never mentions eternal life. The New Covenant is here to save us from eternal death. I keep the Old Covenant simply because God gave it to me and I love God.

What about the tree of life?

 

[mercy1061]

A noteworthy observation about verses supporting keeping commandments. There are many commands littered throughout the NT, so it stands to reason these could be the ones referenced.

Also the Holy Spirit in the OT was not a permanent indwelling.

Just my observations, continue ladies and gents. I have no intention of debating.

Where is WRITTEN that tge Holy Spirit was not a permanent in dwelling in the OT? David understood that G-d would never leave him.

 

[mercy1061]

There is a big difference of having His Words on your heart and having God Himself write His Word on our hearts. I think that you are making way too lightly of this part of the New Covenant.

Also, it is not just the Law, but His entire Word.

As far as your statement that the New Covenant was made with the same people and the same laws, that is not true. The New Covenant is for ALL the Old Covenant was not. Jesus redefined the Law because no one could keep it. He fulfilled the Law and then made it new.

To prove that point there were no dietary restrictions, nor was circumcision demanded, so definately new.

Yeshua says without me you can do nothing, it was he that wrote it on their hearts.

 

[mercy1061]

People should really try to read the Torah regarding sacrifices instead of relying on commentaries.

Sacrifice was made on the alter

 

[big macher]

I dont understand why Messianic Jews are considered Jews if they believe in the New Testament and follow Jesus. Im not arguing that theyre not Jews, Im just asking why are they considered Jews if they practice Christianity.

Im asking-what makes them Jewish if theyre Christian?

I'm a Jewish believer. Even though I believe in Jesus I'm still Jewish. Biblically speaking Jewish people are a nation because we are descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Being a Jew is the nationality and Judaism is the 'religion'sort of.

 

[sahjimira]

To me, now remember this is my take on it..the way I see it. Messianic Jews r Jews that practice Judaism but believe Jesus is Messiah. Messianic Gentiles are not ethnic Jew's ( I'm Irish

 

[sahjimira]

To me, now this is how I see it. Messianic Jews are ethnic Jews that practice jewdaism with the exception that they believe Jesus is mMessiah. Messianic gentiles are not
ethnic Jews (I'm Irish ) but
believe Torah.. Feast
days..Sabbath.. Dietary
requirements and so
forth.I prefer a
mMessianic congregation because I believe in those things stated above which the Christian churches do not teach. We all believe Jesus is the Messiah. I feel the Lord put it in my heart
to follow Messianic
jewdaism. I feel very
comfortable with it and I
am convinced in my mind.
if you have any questions
please go ahead and ask.I
will do my bbest to answer
as answer as a Messianic
Gentile. Since I feel I'm an
x-gentile ( hold Saturday
not Sunday as Sabbath
etc.) For ex-gentiles I prefer MXG it is a lot easier for me!