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we all have our opinions. I just go with what revelation 20:13 states "the sea will give up their dead" and they will be judged.
 
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we all have our opinions. I just go with what revelation 20:13 states "the sea will give up their dead" and they will be judged.

I think it may be like our names written in the Book of life. God does not need to write down our names to remember who we are. I don't think there is a literal book with our names literally written down. I think this is to give us an idea of God remembering us. Perhaps the judgment consist of no gift of eternal life for the wicked.
 
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thats eisegesis not exegesis. Thats putting your opinion into the word of God, not the other way around.
 
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elman said:
Perhaps the judgment consist of no gift of eternal life for the wicked.
thats eisegesis not exegesis. Thats putting your opinion into the word of God, not the other way around.
John 3:16 Whosover believes in Him shall not perish but will have eternal life.
That's not opinion or eisegesis, it's what the bible says.
Elman is right.
 
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"i don't think there is a literal book" is eisegesis not exegesis.

This is a point you have to prove, not just state.
 
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thats eisegesis not exegesis. Thats putting your opinion into the word of God, not the other way around.
And you don't put your opinion into interpreting the Bible? You assume the literal interpretation is the best. I think ususally that is incorrect.
 
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Another good point. I'm just repeating what pastors told me my whole life. Even when I was a christian, whenever I heard "God can't be in the presence of sinfulness" I always thought "yeah he can...he does it all the time"

No. He can't.
You must be thinking we're in Heaven.
Not so.
 
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God doesn't send anyone there. They skip and dance there on their own.
 
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Originally Posted by DontTreadOnMike

Another good point. I'm just repeating what pastors told me my whole life. Even when I was a christian, whenever I heard "God can't be in the presence of sinfulness" I always thought "yeah he can...he does it all the time"
No. He can't.
You must be thinking we're in Heaven.
Not so.

Jesus is God and He can be in the presence of sinfulness.
NASB
 
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Some things in the Bible are not literally true. It is not clear that God exists. If we believe it, we must accept it on faith.

You'll need to be more specific as to the literalness of specific passages.
All words are mere representations of ideas.

It's not "clear" that Dark Matter, Dark Energy or life exists off this planet.
But people sure do believe some or all, no matter the lack of understanding even what it is.
 
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... I don't think there is a literal book with our names literally written down....

God is Spirit. When you're a spirit all "literalness" goes out the window.
If your a spirit, standing alongside God, it'll look like a literal book.
How much "reality" it has is up to God.
 
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Christianity does not offer a resurrection of the natural body. It offers a resurrection of a spiritual body. 1 Cor 15.

The one Jesus got was seemingly physical. But defiantly changed.
Per scripture.
 
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