Why is fornication bad?

[flicka]

Yep, regardless of if a person belives in Him or not, God can control their appetite for sex. I've known for a long time that he could do this, I just didn't know how it does it.

Please, give us some solid examples of how God is using hormones, and manipulating our sex drives, to his purpose. And then explain why. And then offer some proof.

Seriously dude, this idea is as off the wall as they come. But then again, you guys think he helps you find your car keys and stuff too so I don't know why I'm suprised at this

 

[bammertheblue]

Yep, regardless of if a person belives in Him or not, God can control their appetite for sex. I've known for a long time that he could do this, I just didn't know how it does it.

Um...no. You should really think before you write things like this because it makes you look like a total wingnut. No offense, but come on.

 

[repentandbelieve]

Please, give us some solid examples of how God is using hormones, and manipulating our sex drives, to his purpose. And then explain why. And then offer some proof.

Seriously dude, this idea is as off the wall as they come. But then again, you guys think he helps you find your car keys and stuff too so I don't know why I'm suprised at this

I admit, this is only a concept, I'm not going to bother giving examples to some one who does not believe in a higher power. Do you believe in a higher power?

 

[nvxplorer]

life doesn't come from biochemistry. Life comes from God. Biochemistry is merely the process God uses to do give and sustain life.

Hormones are produced. In others words they are created. Biochemstry doesn't produce anything. Organs produce hormones biochemically.

A man builds a chair, he uses a process called carpentry to accomplish it. You can't say that carpentry built the chair. Man built the chair

We've gone through this before, R&B. You seem to be semantically obfuscating your argument for your own benefit. Whether life was created by God, Raven or atheistically is irrelevant. As you state yourself, hormones are produced biochemically. Biochemical processes are known. We no longer believe that illness is caused by evil spirits, and we now know that hormones are not controlled by God.

 

[repentandbelieve]

Um...no. You should really think before you write things like this because it makes you look like a total wingnut. No offense, but come on.

I did think it over, and I examined it in the light of Gods Word also. And it lines up with everything I've learned from real life experiences and the knowledge I have of Gods Word.

From personal experience I know that something controls the sexual appetite.The desire for is sex fluctual, it can be either raised or lowered. Biology has proven that this is the result of a hormone performing a specific function that it has been designed to do. Biology also proves that this hormone is a substances produced by an organ in my body.

Agreed so for??????

 

[nvxplorer]

I did think it over, and I examined it in the light of Gods Word also. And it lines up with everything I've learned from real life experiences and the knowledge I have of Gods Word.

From personal experience I know that something controls the sexual appetite.The desire for is sex fluctual, it can be either raised or lowered. Biology has proven that this is the result of a hormone performing a specific function that it has been designed to do. Biology also proves that this hormone is a substances produced by an organ in my body.

Agreed so for??????

Yes. Go on. (I'm particularly interested in what you've found in scripture to support your position.)

 

[repentandbelieve]

We've gone through this before, R&B. You seem to be semantically obfuscating your argument for your own benefit. Whether life was created by God, Raven or atheistically is irrelevant. As you state yourself, hormones are produced biochemically. Biochemical processes are known. We no longer believe that illness is caused by evil spirits, and we now know that hormones are not controlled by God.

"You seem to be semantically obfuscating your argument for your own benefit" That's a "brush off" anyone can use for the benifit of thier own argument..

Speaking of illnesses, I believe God can heal illnesses. I could conjecture as to how He does it. But with certainty I can say this, if man can heal illness then the One who created and sustains every living thing can do it also.

 

[repentandbelieve]

Yes. Go on. (I'm particularly interested in what you've found in scripture to support your position.)

If a biologist can produce the substance that controls my sexual appetite then certainly a higher power could do the same thing also.

Agreed???????

 

[nvxplorer]

If a biologist can produce the substance that controls my sexual appetite then certainly a higher power could do the same thing also.

Agreed???????

Lay it all out on the table. I'm not going to respond with "Yes, go on" to a dozen posts.

Again, the question is not whether God is capable of doing this. Your claim is that He in fact does manipulate hormones, so you must show that God is actively doing so. That He has the ability to do so does not show that He is using this ability.

 

[repentandbelieve]

Lay it all out on the table. I'm not going to respond with "Yes, go on" to a dozen posts.

Again, the question is not whether God is capable of doing this. Your claim is that He in fact does manipulate hormones, so you must show that God is actively doing so. That He has the ability to do so does not show that He is using this ability.

Wait a minute, lets back up. Somehow I've been misunderstood.

I'm not claiming "that He in fact does manipulate hormones". What I have said is that God is capable of doing this , and that it is very possible that He is doing this to accomplish His purposes. It's a theory OK, I it could be a fact, but I have never gone so far as to say that is is indeed a fact. For God can accomplish anything He wants any way He chooses to do it. People can take it or leave. It offers a perfectly plausable biolgical explaination as to how God could accomplish His purposes without violating a person free will. Which is a question I have always had.

Something else that you would be shocked to know is that God is not subject to any of the laws pertaining to nature or physics, and that these laws are indeed subject to Him..

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[flicka]

Something else that you would be shocked to know is that God is not subject to any of the laws pertaining to nature or physics, and that these laws are in reality subject to Him..

This is the best part of your belief system. It allows you to disregard everything mankind knows as true and imagine whatever you want. That being the case you shouldn't really try to debate because the no matter what is offered to you it can be dismissed with a simple "God can do anything!!!!!!!!". And, in your own imagination, he does.

Real nice fantasy world you got going there.

 

[repentandbelieve]

This is the best part of your belief system. It allows you to disregard everything mankind knows as true and imagine whatever you want. That being the case you shouldn't really try to debate because the no matter what is offered to you it can be dismissed with a simple "God can do anything!!!!!!!!". And, in your own imagination, he does.

Real nice fantasy world you got going there.

No, it's really not the best part of my belief system. I'll tell you what the best part of my belief system is. God's plan of salvation is what I consider to be the best part of my belief system.

You see, a person can believe in God and that God can do anything, but this alone will not save them.

Do you have belief system? If so, what do you consider to be the best part of it????

 

[sparklecat]

Thanks for the reply.

Experiencing practical everyday real life lessons are really the best way to learn anything aren't they? Even the Christian feels like he is "winging it" sometimes.

I've concluded that We cannot life being afraid of what might happen. the decision making process should be governed by priciple rather than consequences.


believe it or not I've done everything on the list you 've given. I've had sex, trusted people, gone outside, used a gas stove, had children and played hockey. All and all, I dont regret doing any of them. Ironically, the only thing on the list that I've done that caused harm to someone else are some of sexual relationships that I've had.

Ok, but that's your experience. Doesn't mean everyone else will find their lives the same, or that harm hasn't been caused by other innocuous activities in your life which I didn't list.

 

[PacificPandeist]

No, it's really not the best part of my belief system. I'll tell you what the best part of my belief system is. God's plan of salvation is what I consider to be the best part of my belief system.

You see, a person can believe in God and that God can do anything, but this alone will not save them.

Do you have belief system? If so, what do you consider to be the best part of it????

God does not save us, God merely experiences existence through us, and lets us save or not save ourselves!!

//// Pacific PanDeist

 

[Rorshack]

Fornication as in sex with very many people is Tiring! It takes away time that could be spent doing something constructive.

 

[Lanakila]

Fornication as in sex with very many people is Tiring! It takes away time that could be spent doing something constructive.

Why would you believe that sex is unconstructive? I mean it connects us humans to each other in ways emotionally. Sex with very many people at one time is probably very tiring, but if your body has recouperating time, it is quite possible to do so with out wearing out. (not speaking from experience btw)

 

[4theluvofgod]

perhaps you shouldn't worry about how you 'measure up' so much.
besides I hear they have pills now for that

 

[elsbeth]

If you seriously don't understand why sex w/o marriage (committment) can be a problem for society, and should as a whole not be advocated, go watch a few Jerry Springer shows.
And yes, I understand that it's the committment, not the marriage that matters.

 

[Lanakila]

If you seriously don't understand why sex w/o marriage (committment) can be a problem for society, and should as a whole not be advocated, go watch a few Jerry Springer shows.
And yes, I understand that it's the committment, not the marriage that matters.

Sex without marriage and or commitment has nothing to do with the Jerry Springer show. On that show often they have people that are supposed to be commited to each other fooling around. If people can't live up to their commitments, they ought not to make them in my opinion.

 

[mcart909]

People who have sex before marriage are more likely to be unfaithful to their future spouse. That's what the research suggests.