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By "faith", I'm referring to faith in the Christian God. By "works", I'm referring to what a person does in the course of their life.

This question has been bothering me for a long time; I've had countless internal monologues about it. Well, I finally decided to stop talking to myself and instead ask real Christians! :wave:
 

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As a non-Christian, I am not permitted to answer your question about faith & works.

However, WRT your post #2: Blessings are a sort-of currency here. If you were to go to the control panel you would see many options available to you. It used to be true that to use some of those options, they would cost you a certain number of blessings to invoke ... like changing your title or your font or whatever might cost, say, 500 blessings.

Blessings accrue with time and you get blessings for postings and starting threads. You probably got some base level when you signed up.

Sometimes they are given by one poster to another as a way showing appreciation for who they are or what they post. This is less common since the addition of reputation indicators and the ability of one poster to up another person's rep. Some of us have that feature turned off.

You'll note that beside your or my blessings is a box labeled [Bless]. If you click that, you can donate to someone.

HTH.
 
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Faith is always more important than works.
Often times the things that we are able to accomplish aren't much...due to circumstances beyond our control. But faith in following Whom you know to be right, even though outwardly it appears as if you are always a loser, is going to make you a winner every time.

In the humanistic scheme of things Jesus, by comparison, was one of the worst messiahs there was. His followers couldn't and didn't fight, they didn't lead a revolt against Roman occupation, and they were some of the smallest numbers of any of the messiah's there were at that time in extant. But the one that I follow deliberately didn't self engrandize at all...Others did it as they recognized him for who He was.

Because of faith or belief you will perform actions along those similar lines. It isn't about fame, money or glory (although with some of the "famous" preachers...well, that is another soapbox)...but those actions because you believe are for extra rewards in heaven...they are the currency by with which you will have riches there.

Faith gets you through the door of heaven...but works provides a nice nest egg for you when you arrive...and so does ridicule for trying your bottom dollar best as well.
 
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By "faith", I'm referring to faith in the Christian God. By "works", I'm referring to what a person does in the course of their life.

This question has been bothering me for a long time; I've had countless internal monologues about it. Well, I finally decided to stop talking to myself and instead ask real Christians! :wave:



Because it is so easy for someone to "go though the motions" of religion and not love God.. Christianity is all about a way for us to love God. Look at the time Jesus spent here, and in that time when He spoke of the Pharisees, it was usually in the form of a rebuke. Because they stopped worshiping God through there actions along time ago..The worshiped their method of worship. They loved religion, and the power and prestige it gave them over there fellow man, plus They were using God to accomplish all of this.

Now if the importance of ones faith lies on your love for God, then no one who goes through the religious motions or does thing for the sake of appearances will be justified to the Lord.

That's not to say we are not to do works, it's just the reason we do them is an outward expression of an inward love to God, and not away to earn our way into heaven. Because nothing we can do would ever be enough to earn heaven.
 
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But faith in following Whom you know to be right, even though outwardly it appears as if you are always a loser, is going to make you a winner every time.
If you're following someone you know is right, then there's no faith involved. Now, if you didn't know they were right, but you followed them anyway, that would be faith.

If I knew God was existed and was right, I'd be following him with you. But that's the thing--I don't know.

In the humanistic scheme of things Jesus, by comparison, was one of the worst messiahs there was. His followers couldn't and didn't fight, they didn't lead a revolt against Roman occupation, and they were some of the smallest numbers of any of the messiah's there were at that time in extant. But the one that I follow deliberately didn't self engrandize at all...Others did it as they recognized him for who He was.
Humility is a good thing in a leader, yes. Most false prophets are not humble. Cult founders tend to be extremely arrogant and self-absorded. They lead by manipulation rather than by example.

From what I've read about him, Jesus seemed like a really chill guy. I just see no reason to believe he was (the son of) God.

Because of faith or belief you will perform actions along those similar lines. It isn't about fame, money or glory (although with some of the "famous" preachers...well, that is another soapbox)...but those actions because you believe are for extra rewards in heaven...they are the currency by with which you will have riches there.
Do you believe in intrinsic morality? Do you believe a person can be good for the sake of goodness, or do you believe we must have an incentive in order to be good?

Faith gets you through the door of heaven...but works provides a nice nest egg for you when you arrive...and so does ridicule for trying your bottom dollar best as well.
I have trouble believing a loving God would turn away Gandhi because he didn't believe in the right deity.
 
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Because it is so easy for someone to "go though the motions" of religion and not love God.. Christianity is all about a way for us to love God. Look at the time Jesus spent here, and in that time when He spoke of the Pharisees, it was usually in the form of a rebuke. Because they stopped worshiping God through there actions along time ago..The worshiped their method of worship. They loved religion, and the power and prestige it gave them over there fellow man, plus They were using God to accomplish all of this.

Now if the importance of ones faith lies on your love for God, then no one who goes through the religious motions or does thing for the sake of appearances will be justified to the Lord.

That's not to say we are not to do works, it's just the reason we do them is an outward expression of an inward love to God, and not away to earn our way into heaven. Because nothing we can do would ever be enough to earn heaven.
Forgive my bluntness, but why does God care whether we love him or not?

If I had proof of God, I would love him. In the meantime, I have been loving his creation, including my life, my family, and my friends.

Although people swathe it in emotion, the belief in God is ultimately just a belief. It doesn't change whether God exists or not. And our belief or non-belief depends largely on our birthplace, our upbringing, and the people who we live with. In other words, it's largely contingent on circumstances beyond our control. So how can God judge us personally based on something that is largely beyond our personal control??? And why should that be more important than what we do in life, how we treat people, and what impact we have on the world? How is a simple belief more important that anything and everything we do?
 
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If I had proof of God, I would love him. In the meantime, I have been loving his creation, including my life, my family, and my friends.

Do you have "proof" that your mother is actually who she claims to be? Have you had a DNA test performed?

Even if you had one recently as a child did you love your mother because of the available proof? or because she loved you? Love is a choice, and God, like our parents want all of his children to love Him, if for no other reason that we can comprehend..

Although people swathe it in emotion, the belief in God is ultimately just a belief. It doesn't change whether God exists or not. And our belief or non-belief depends largely on our birthplace, our upbringing, and the people who we live with. In other words, it's largely contingent on circumstances beyond our control.So how can God judge us personally based on something that is largely beyond our personal control???

We ALL were born with a little more than empty innocences, and just happen to fall into the religious beliefs of our parents. We all seek God, and the Qualities of God whether we have been able to label or align this effort with religious terminology or not.
Your post here is an excellent example.. In that you seek a quality of God, "righteousness" or fairness.. You seek a reason to explain "devine judgment" on people and circumstance (as you see it) beyond their control. This righteousness is a foundational quality of God.

Now Look at the world, it as a whole, seeks God. Now some have relabeled this quest of Origins, Purpose, and Philosophy, to fit there personal doctrines, and some seek answers to questions they don't even know how to ask, while others have even constructed a system of belief devoted to disproving everyone else's answers by coming up with a whole (Seemingly new) way of looking at things. But from the most in tune/connected person, to someone living in a far away place as primitive man once lived.. We all have some explanation or reason for being, an Idea of orgins, and the meaning of life.. None of us have just simply been content with what we have, or what we understand. From the beginning of man, we have sought out God. This quest, our availability and our understanding to the amount of scriptural truth we have been exposed to, along with the condition of our hearts is what is weighed before God. Not a denominational History or vocabulary exam.

Heb.4:
12For the word (Jesus) of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. 13Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.


And why should that be more important than what we do in life, how we treat people, and what impact we have on the world? How is a simple belief more important that anything and everything we do?

Belief should be the reason we do everything. It's just in God's economy, righteousness can't be bought with trivial attempts to win over favoritism.. God doesn't work righteousness on a sliding scale like we do. Either you are righteous or you are not. If you are not, then He has provided a way to obtain righteousness, through a proxy who paid for your unrighteous deeds. You can't buy righteousness because two rights, don't erase a wrong. So if you have ever committed a sin just one (Has nothing to do with it being a "little or a Big sin") with no way to make up for it then you are dependent on his proxy for your sin. The only way to accept this proxy is through Love/faith.

The same measure of Love/faith we are all born with, and we display when we are old enough to comprehend the love shown us from our mothers/parents. (with or without DNA tests to confirm there biological claims.)

Mt.18:1At that time the disciples came to Jesus and asked, "Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?" 2He called a little child and had him stand among them. 3And he said: "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
 
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Faith produces works, works do not produce faith

Acts 19:2a He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed?

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
 
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When someone predicts something extremely accurately down to the last detail of time, manner, and surrounding circumstances of what is going to happen...and then it happens precisely and exactly the way that they said...I know that they are telling the truth.

So, when Jesus fulfilled every single prophesy that was told about him...including all of the mere hints as to how we would recognize him...I believe them. The first prophesy appearing around 1300 years before He showed up...gotta go with the one that is telling me that.

The bible may contain history but it isn't a history book. History and archeology do line up with the things that the Bible has to say over and over again...meaning again that there must be truth in the Bible even though we are 3000 years past it's inception.

Logic, reason and prudence all tell me that Jesus was the Son of God. (meaning a very small part of Him) And there we have the difference. I have faith in Jesus...and a love for him. This love that I carry for him has made me search out the whole truth as to who He is and how He lived his life while here on earth. I try to live my life as He would. I idolize him that much...which is what He truly wants. He doesn't want for us to follow some kind of man-made religion with the term Christian associated with it...He wants us to idolize him because of our love for him. Nothing more or less.

That is the kind of faith that I am referring to...which is something that you, yourself have stated that you do not own. I am about positive that you see this kind of faith as a form of willful enslavement because of my delusion. (Most non-believers do) But, I can tell you that there is a whole lot more freedom in my faith than there is yours. I have had yours...can't say as I want it back. When I first became free it was a little scarey as there seemed to be almost too much freedom and the feeling was a bit disconcerting. But that is it...once you drink the koolaide there is no going back.
 
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Why is Faith more important than Works?
By "faith", I'm referring to faith in the Christian God. By "works", I'm referring to what a person does in the course of their life.

This question has been bothering me for a long time; I've had countless internal monologues about it. Well, I finally decided to stop talking to myself and instead ask real Christians! :wave:

I don't think faith is more important than works; I think faith precedes works. Certainly, this is what the Bible teaches. Paul the apostle explains:

"...for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I have committed unto Him against that day." (2 Tim. 1:12)

Before Paul could commit (which is a "work") he had to believe and before he could believe he had to know and be persuaded. This is usually how faith works - even in very mundane, secular situations. That faith comes before works does not mean it is necessarily more important, however.

Real faith always engenders a corresponding action. For this reason we have the apostle James writing things like:

"For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." (Ja. 2:26)

Righteous conduct (or "works") is an important tell-tale sign of genuine faith in Christ. If I truly believe in Christ as my Saviour and submit my life to His Lordship, God's Holy Spirit, the Bible says, will come to dwell within me. When that happens, my desires in life change sharply. Foremost among these new desires that come at conversion is a desire to obey God. So it is that when one claims faith in Christ the truth of that claim may be assessed in part by how that one lives.

"And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He who says, 'I know him (Jesus Christ),' and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." (1 Jn. 23, 4)

Peace to you.
 
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Do you have "proof" that your mother is actually who she claims to be? Have you had a DNA test performed?

Even if you had one recently as a child did you love your mother because of the available proof? or because she loved you? Love is a choice, and God, like our parents want all of his children to love Him, if for no other reason that we can comprehend..
If I knew God like I know my mother, I would eagerly, passionately consider that proof. Heck, just knowing him as an acquaintance would do. :prayer:

We ALL were born with a little more than empty innocences, and just happen to fall into the religious beliefs of our parents. We all seek God, and the Qualities of God whether we have been able to label or align this effort with religious terminology or not.
I'm curious, do you think someone praying to Brahma, or Allah, or Zoroaster, is also praying to God?

Your post here is an excellent example.. In that you seek a quality of God, "righteousness" or fairness.. You seek a reason to explain "devine judgment" on people and circumstance (as you see it) beyond their control. This righteousness is a foundational quality of God.
The Bible says God is righteous, so I do consider his actions with righteousness in mind. Also, I do have trouble squaring the existence of things like Hell and genocide with the attribute of righteousness.

Now Look at the world, it as a whole, seeks God. Now some have relabeled this quest of Origins, Purpose, and Philosophy, to fit there personal doctrines, and some seek answers to questions they don't even know how to ask, while others have even constructed a system of belief devoted to disproving everyone else's answers by coming up with a whole (Seemingly new) way of looking at things. But from the most in tune/connected person, to someone living in a far away place as primitive man once lived.. We all have some explanation or reason for being, an Idea of orgins, and the meaning of life.. None of us have just simply been content with what we have, or what we understand.
You say this is a search for God and I somewhat agree, but I think it runs deeper than that. We all seek meaning.

Who am I?
Why am I here?
Where did I come from?
What happens afterwards?

Does God really answer all these questions? Are the answers internally coherent? Are they externally evidenced? I'm not sure. All I know is, speaking personally, the QUESTIONS THEMSELVES inspire awe in me. Whenever I stop to ponder the possibilities I feel excited and somehow more alive. I call them holy, but in a secular way.

From the beginning of man, we have sought out God. This quest, our availability and our understanding to the amount of scriptural truth we have been exposed to, along with the condition of our hearts is what is weighed before God. Not a denominational History or vocabulary exam.
Thank you, this is new and interesting. I'd like to know more: what is scriptural truth and how do we expose ourselves to it? Also, what do you mean about the condition of our hearts? (To me, the heart is something that pumps blood.)

Heb.4:
12For the word (Jesus) of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. 13Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.

That's intense. :cool:

Either you are righteous or you are not.
I'm not used to the idea that every person on Earth falls into bucket A or B. It just doesn't compute with me.

If you are not, then He has provided a way to obtain righteousness, through a proxy who paid for your unrighteous deeds.
Who/what is the proxy?

I'm sorry about the 20 questions--this is very interesting and I'd like to learn as much as I can about it.

You can't buy righteousness because two rights, don't erase a wrong. So if you have ever committed a sin just one (Has nothing to do with it being a "little or a Big sin") with no way to make up for it then you are dependent on his proxy for your sin. The only way to accept this proxy is through Love/faith.

The same measure of Love/faith we are all born with, and we display when we are old enough to comprehend the love shown us from our mothers/parents. (with or without DNA tests to confirm there biological claims.)
When you say "love/faith," what exactly does it mean? What kind of love/faith would be needed to accept the proxy?

Mt.18:1At that time the disciples came to Jesus and asked, "Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?" 2He called a little child and had him stand among them. 3And he said: "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
So humility is like love/faith? I'm confused.
 
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If I knew God like I know my mother, I would eagerly, passionately consider that proof. Heck, just knowing him as an acquaintance would do.

When you were very young did your relationship with your mother depend on you "knowing her?" Or did you (At first) simply depend on her?

Knowing all about someone takes time and devotion, and most of the time, to start out, it takes a measure of faith to seek out this relationship.

With a Mother and child, these things can be taken for granted in most cases, but never the less even with our own mothers we do have to continue to develop and maintain a relationship with them like anyone else... Why should our relationship with God be any different?

I'm curious, do you think someone praying to Brahma, or Allah, or Zoroaster, is also praying to God?

The need to identify, a god to pray to, is evidence of the need we all have to find the true God.
God's written or spoken name here is not important, if it were, all of the English speaking believers would be in trouble. "Jesus and God" are not grammatically correct either from a Greek or Hebrew perspective. What is important is who we Identify with the names we refer to. Scripture tells us God/Jesus has many names.. The verse in Hebrews 4 that you liked, is an example of another name of Jesus. "The Word" can be seem being used in John 1:1 forward as well.

Now don't confuse this principle with every name we ascribe to a god as being God. Clearly by what is believed about these other gods, they do not describe the God of Israel.

Does God really answer all these questions? Are the answers internally coherent? Are they externally evidenced? I'm not sure. All I know is, speaking personally, the QUESTIONS THEMSELVES inspire awe in me. Whenever I stop to ponder the possibilities I feel excited and somehow more alive. I call them holy, but in a secular way.


The answers to these questions and others we share are freely given to all who seek them. Internally we experience a contentment with the answers we are given and sense of joyful peace to know what we are apart of, and why.

Any external evidence we may find maybe something you have witnessed or heard of a bunch of times, but the difference is once you have obtained a relationship with God and maintain it.. The "simple answers or simple evidence" that you once disregarded, now takes on a new meaning. It's kinda like finding out the actual lyrics to your favorite song, that you've been singing incorrectly for so many years.. Everything just clicks.

Jesus tells us in Mt.11:25At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. 26Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure. 27"All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

These "things" that were hidden from the wise and learned include the answers to your questions:


Who am I?
Why am I here?
Where did I come from?
What happens afterwards?
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Thank you, this is new and interesting. I'd like to know more: what is scriptural truth and how do we expose ourselves to it? Also, what do you mean about the condition of our hearts? (To me, the heart is something that pumps blood.)

"Scriptural Truth" is an overly stated way of saying "the truths found in the bible" In this case it speaks of the the amount of the "gospel" of Jesus you heard and your ability to comprehend what you have have been told.

Your "heart" in this context speaks of your spiritual heart, or the core of your inner dialog. Some refer to it as your conscience.
If the condition of you heart is hard, it can be said that, you in your inner dialog, have already decided, despite what is shared with you, Not to acknowledge Jesus.


There are several conditions the "heart" may find it self in. Jesus speak of them in Luke 8:
4While a large crowd was gathering and people were coming to Jesus from town after town, he told this parable: 5"A farmer went out to sow his seed. As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path; it was trampled on, and the birds of the air ate it up. 6Some fell on rock, and when it came up, the plants withered because they had no moisture. 7Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up with it and choked the plants. 8Still other seed fell on good soil. It came up and yielded a crop, a hundred times more than was sown."
When he said this, he called out, "He who has ears to hear, let him hear."
9His disciples asked him what this parable meant. 10He said, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that,
" 'though seeing, they may not see;
though hearing, they may not understand.'[a]
11"This is the meaning of the parable: The seed is the word of God. 12Those along the path are the ones who hear, and then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and be saved. 13Those on the rock are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it, but they have no root. They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away. 14The seed that fell among thorns stands for those who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked by life's worries, riches and pleasures, and they do not mature. 15But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the word, retain it, and by persevering produce a crop.


It is these conditions, along with your ability to understand what you have been taught about the Gospel, and what you do, or how you respond, that you will be judged on.. Jesus tells us in another parable that not all of us are given the same "talents" (Or spiritual currency), but what we have been given, we must use faithfully! To sum it all up again, even if you weren't born a christian, and live in a place where Christianity is scarce then you will be judged according to what exactly you have been exposed to, the condition of your heart, and what you can comprehend.

I'm not used to the idea that every person on Earth falls into bucket A or B. It just doesn't compute with me.
Actually we all fall into the same bucket.. If bucket B is the bucket of sinful people then we are in need of Jesus's sacrifice.. Because we are told that "We" all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

Who/what is the proxy?
We have been told that "Sin" (any act outside the expressed will of God.) is punishable by Death.

To understand this, you have to ask yourself is there a sin or evil that can be committed, that in our estimation is worthy of Death.. Now before you answer take into account the Hitlers, Osamas, Manson's and Kim Jong Li's of this world... This desire to see the "wicked" punished is a trait we share with God. It's just our "righteousness meter" as been polluted by the sins we enjoy or that are common place to us..

If you looked back, a few hundred years ago, it wouldn't even turn heads to see a middle aged man marry a 14 or 15 year old girl.. Recently though it has become distasteful, or wrong. and even more recently it's slowly becoming more and more acceptable to view underage girls as sexual objects again.. (Look at the movies, magazines, and media..) Brittney, and the Olsen twins (When they were underage) quickly come to mind. Our sense of right and wrong is a measure of the society we are apart of, while God's standards are the same as they were yesterday, as they are today, and will be tomorrow.

In order for a righteous God to be able to punish pure evil, he must punish all sin in the same manor. But, The problem is with free will intact, just by the definition of "free will" we will not always choose what God would Will for us to choose. So that Automatically places us in a position of sin, and all sin, will be punished with "True Evil." Enter the Proxy or Person/Deity/Jesus that would except the responsibility for what we owe God (Our Death.) for the sin we have committed.. It is through the Blood of Jesus and his willingness to take your sin, and offer himself as payment for your misdeeds outside the will of the Father. That makes him your sin proxy (for the lack of a better term.)

When you say "love/faith," what exactly does it mean? What kind of love/faith would be needed to accept the proxy?

"Faith" is the vehicle that will deliver you to Jesus, and the "Love" is the fuel that powers any real Faith. The problem I see with todays "faith" is that you can go through the motions of religion with all the "faith" you can muster, and never know Jesus or God. But when you combine an earnest Faith, and True Love for God then, no matter what Jesus Christ centered "religion" your in, you will eventually find God.

How to except this gift: (As stolen from, http://www.billygraham.org/SH_HowtobecomeaChristian.asp)

We Are Sinful
"For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." —Romans 3:23 (NIV)

You may have heard someone say, "I'm only human—nobody's perfect." This Bible verse says the same thing: We are all sinners. We all do things that we know are wrong. And that's why we feel estranged from God—because God is holy and good, and we are not.

Sin Has a Penalty
"For the wages of sin is death." —Romans 6:23 (NIV)

Just as criminals must pay the penalty for their crimes, sinners must pay the penalty for their sins. If you continue to sin, you will pay the penalty of spiritual death: You will not only die physically; you will also be separated from our holy God for all eternity. The Bible teaches that those who choose to remain separated from God will spend eternity in a place called hell.

Christ Has Paid Our Penalty!
"But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us." —Romans 5:8 (NIV)

The Bible teaches that Jesus Christ, the sinless Son of God, has paid the penalty for all your sins. You may think you have to lead a good life and do good deeds before God will love you. But the Bible says that Christ loved you enough to die for you, even when you were rebelling against Him.

Salvation Is a Free Gift
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast." —Ephesians 2:8-9 (NIV)

The word grace means "undeserved favor." It means God is offering you something you could never provide for yourself: forgiveness of sins and eternal life, God's gift to you is free. You do not have to work for a gift. All you have to do is joyfully receive it, Believe with all your heart that Jesus Christ died for you!

Christ Is at Your Heart's Door
"Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me." —Revelation 3:20 (NIV)

Jesus Christ wants to have a personal relationship with you. Picture, if you will, Jesus Christ standing at the door of your heart (the door of your emotions, intellect and will). Invite Him in; He is waiting for you to receive Him into your heart and life.

You Must Receive Him
"Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God." —John 1:12 (NIV)

When you receive Christ into your heart you become a child of God, and have the privilege of talking to Him in prayer at any time about anything. The Christian life is a personal relationship to God through Jesus Christ. And best of all, it is a relationship that will last for all eternity


This is the "faith" part. "Love" comes as you walk and learn to "walk" with the Lord through the rest of your life. Kinda like how your relationship with your mother develops from a dependency based relationship, into actual Love and appreciation for her.

So humility is like love/faith? I'm confused.

Humility in Mt.18 is how Jesus is more accurately describing my simple Idea of the relationship between a child his/her mother.

The humility a child posses is a pure, innocent. a child is not afraid to profess what they believe, a child doesn't care if he/she looks stupid for asking questions, they are not afraid to openly love or show affection. they don't go through the motions of love. there is a genuine quality that can be found in little children, that we as adults loose.

All of these attributes can be credited to children, this is the Idea of what your love and faith should look like.
 
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Faith is the foundation for which good works are built upon. Habakkuk 2:4
"Behold the proud, His soul is not upright in him; But the just shall live by his faith.

2 Corinthians 9:8
And God [is] able to make all grace abound toward you, that you, always having all sufficiency in all [things], may have an abundance for every good work.

2 Peter 1:5
But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. For if these things are yours and abound, [you will be] neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Exercising faith brings about good works.
Hebrews 10:16-17
"This [is] the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the LORD: I will put My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them," [then He adds], "Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more."

Hebrews 10:22-24
let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. Let us hold fast the confession of [our] hope without wavering, for He who promised [is] faithful. And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works,
 
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