Why is Evolution feared by many Christians?

[corvus_corax]

This only proves the common delusion among evolutionists. If you base your world view on chance mutations resulting in an accident called "you", you have no basis for morality other than that which you believe to be "right".

So what?
I personally believe that I and others should enjoy living, therefore I believe that killing others is "wrong".
How is that deficient?
I believe that a fetus may be a living entity, therefore I believe that abortion should be avoided.
How is that a deficient morality?
I believe that women and men, although differing in physical and psychological makeups, should be treated as equally as possible.
How is that morally deficient?
I believe that slavery should adhere to certain standards of behavior regarding the "master".
How is that a...O wait....
I believe that children should honor their parents and if they dont they should be killed.
How is that morally defi...O wait...
(although I suppose those last two will be missed entirely )

 

[Sinai]

i have read many posts here about the "great" debate of Evolution vs. Creationism. it just seems the more and more i read, the more and more i see Christians being afraid of the idea of Evolution being correct.

As a general rule, the young Earth creationists [YECs] tend to exhibit such a fear--but most other Christians tend not to.

so if this is true, i would like to know the reasons why.

i also want to add questions with my question of wanting to know why Christians are afraid of Evolution being true.

1. If Evolution is true, what does that mean to a Christian's spiritual life?
my opinion, it doesn't mean a thing.

Most Christians' spiritual lives would probably not be affected by the validity or invalidity of the theory of evolution. It might, however, affect YECs, since it would indicate that their interpretation of certain biblical scriptures was untrue. The principal problem in this area seems to be that YECs generally do not view their interpretation as merely being an interpretation. Rather, they are convinced that their interpretation is precisely what the Bible says and means. Thus, if they are proven wrong, then the Bible has been proven wrong. And they reason that if the Bible were wrong in one area, then it may be wrong in other areas ["slippery slope" argument].

 

[caravelair]

This only proves the common delusion among evolutionists. If you base your world view on chance mutations resulting in an accident called "you", you have no basis for morality other than that which you believe to be "right".

i would say that christian theistic evolutionists have the same basis for morality that you do.

 

[Nathan Poe]

This only proves the common delusion among evolutionists. If you base your world view on chance mutations resulting in an accident called "you", you have no basis for morality other than that which you believe to be "right".

And you have based your world view on contempt for evolutionists.

(As well as, I'd wager, other people different from yourself.)

Do you believe this to be "right?"

 

[FunkyBrother]

Evolution is unproven (There's still a $1million unclaimed reward hanging over it) but taught as fact.

But basically NO ADAM, NO CHRIST! It's as simple as that!!!

 

[caravelair]

Evolution is unproven

in science, there is no such thing as "proof". theories are never proven. the best you can do is establish something beyond reasonable doubt, and that has been done for evolution, due to the vast amounts of evidence we have.

(There's still a $1million unclaimed reward hanging over it)

what challenge is this? it is as impossible to win as kent hovind's? that's kind of dishonest.

by the way, there's a million dollars and a nobel prize in it for you if you disprove evolution.

but taught as fact.

that's what it is.

But basically NO ADAM, NO CHRIST! It's as simple as that!!!

evolution is compatible with christianity, if that's what you mean.

 

[FunkyBrother]

in science, there is no such thing as "proof". theories are never proven. the best you can do is establish something beyond reasonable doubt, and that has been done for evolution, due to the vast amounts of evidence we have.

To win the money, the evidence has to stand up in a court of law. i.e. beyond reasonable doubt.

Evolution is not fact. Even if you subscribe to the old earth theory, there is not enough time for us to evolve.



Evolution is not compatible with Christianity.



Firstly, if evolution was true then there would be no need for God, let alone a living God.

Charles “Racist” Darwin was trying to disprove God.



The Bible starts from Genesis. You can do has much doctrinal gymnastics as you like but scripture does not show that evolution is compatible with Christianity.



As I said: “No Adam, NO Christ!”

 

[caravelair]

To win the money, the evidence has to stand up in a court of law. i.e. beyond reasonable doubt.

who are the jury? what are the terms?

Evolution is not fact.

yes it is. we observe evolution occuring, we observe new species evolving, and the evidence for common descent does establish it beyond any reasonable doubt.

Even if you subscribe to the old earth theory, there is not enough time for us to evolve.

why not? seems to me there is plenty of time. 3.5 bilion years is a lot longer than you might think.

Evolution is not compatible with Christianity.

then why is it that the majority of christians worldwide believe in evolution? creationism is mainly an american phenomenon.

Firstly, if evolution was true then there would be no need for God, let alone a living God.

evolution does not remove any need for god.

Charles “Racist” Darwin was trying to disprove God.

no he was not. he was trying to explain the evidence he found in his studies. evolution does not disprove god, and does not attempt to.

The Bible starts from Genesis. You can do has much doctrinal gymnastics as you like but scripture does not show that evolution is compatible with Christianity.

the question is, how do you interpret genesis? there are many different possible interpretations. why do you baselessly assume yours is correct, and everyone else's is wrong, even though your interpretation contradicts a whole lot of evidence in nature, which is supposedly god's creation?

 

[Risen from the Dust]

FunkyBrother, posts like that will not change anyone's opinion -- except perhaps in regards to one's ability to debate. People here, on both sides of the argument, are very, very intelligent. If you want to make a point, you need to back it up carefully with something which can be analyzed and examined -- either in the light of Scriptures or science (and preferably both).

I say this with all due respect. Just saying.

 

[Edx]

This only proves the common delusion among evolutionists. If you base your world view on chance mutations resulting in an accident called "you", you have no basis for morality other than that which you believe to be "right".

This is the problem with Creationists PMM. You have no idea what you are talking about, but you talk as if you do.

Ed

 

[gluadys]

As I said: “No Adam, NO Christ!”

No problem. The existence of Adam is demonstrated every time you look in the mirror. "Adam" is the Hebrew word for "human being".

So Adam is and Christ is.

 

[Dal M.]

Evolution is not compatible with Christianity.

People just like you used to say the same thing about a spherical Earth and heliocentrism. Oddly enough, neither Christianity nor Sun-centric models of the solar system has vanished, and these days most Creationists (with the exception of a few holdouts like Malcolm Bowden and Gerardus Buow) are pretty comfortable with the idea that the Earth isn't the pshyical center of the cosmos.

Not all Christians feel the need to set up their faith as a roadblock to science. But, either way, science comes through in the end-- and so-called literalists of the future will be trying very hard to pretend that Young-Earth Creationism never existed.

 

[Praxiteles]

But basically NO ADAM, NO CHRIST!

If you say so.

 

[LoveofChrist]

FunkyBrother, posts like that will not change anyone's opinion -- except perhaps in regards to one's ability to debate. People here, on both sides of the argument, are very, very intelligent. If you want to make a point, you need to back it up carefully with something which can be analyzed and examined -- either in the light of Scriptures or science (and preferably both).

I say this with all due respect. Just saying.

The wisdom of MAN is the foolishness of GOD! Sadly, it seems that God's almightly wisdom is looked upon as foolishness by the men of This World. Just the other day I was witnessing to my classmates and they started making fun of me and my Lord--because of evolution! We had just been taught about how we came from apes and I was trying to explain to them about how it REALLY happened.

Evolutionism might not be a base for morals, but I know that evolutionists are materialists. And anyone who reads the history of WWII knows where THAT Godless worldview leads!!!

 

[DailyBlessings]

Evolution is unproven (There's still a $1million unclaimed reward hanging over it) but taught as fact.

But basically NO ADAM, NO CHRIST! It's as simple as that!!!

And this is why Christians should fear Creationism...

 

[Praxiteles]

The wisdom of MAN is the foolishness of GOD! Sadly, it seems that God's almightly wisdom is looked upon as foolishness by the men of This World. Just the other day I was witnessing to my classmates and they started making fun of me and my Lord--because of evolution! We had just been taught about how we came from apes and I was trying to explain to them about how it REALLY happened.

Evolutionism might not be a base for morals, but I know that evolutionists are materialists. And anyone who reads the history of WWII knows where THAT Godless worldview leads!!!

You haven't been around here for long, so you may not have seen it said. However, you should know this: evolution and atheism are not the same thing.

Often it is expressed as evolution != atheism, or evolution =/= atheism.

One can be the most devout of believers and still accept evolution.

 

[Sinai]

Evolution is not fact.

Actually, evolution per se is a fact, since we know that organisms can and do evolve, change and adapt over time. Whether the theory of evolution correctly states precisely how life on our planet actually occurred is still being debated. Although the ToE may be the best scientific explanation we currently have of when and how life on Earth developed, there are certain aspects of the theory that are probably incomplete or incorrect--and those portions will undoubtedly be amended as new discoveries are made and new explanations are formulated.

Even if you subscribe to the old earth theory, there is not enough time for us to evolve.

Congratulations! Your post is the first I've seen by a young earth creationist that may actually identify the principal flaw in the current popular renditions of the ToE: Even if all 4.5 billion years of the Earth's history were available, that would still be far too short a time for evolution via random mutation (even under the most favorable of circumstances) to explain the development of life on our planet. And the fossil record shows that much less time was often available (during which evolution was expected to make quantum leaps).....

Evolution is not compatible with Christianity.

Really? Why is that?

As I said: “No Adam, NO Christ!”

I suppose if there were no human beings with souls and if there were no sin, then there would be no need for salvation and redemption, but that almost seems to be begging the question.....

 

[Electric Skeptic]

The wisdom of MAN is the foolishness of GOD! Sadly, it seems that God's almightly wisdom is looked upon as foolishness by the men of This World. Just the other day I was witnessing to my classmates and they started making fun of me and my Lord--because of evolution! We had just been taught about how we came from apes and I was trying to explain to them about how it REALLY happened.

No, offense, but I'm not surprised they made fun of you. You were advocating a ridiculous, falsified belief. Evolutionary theory does not conflict with christianity, so its accuracy has nothing to do with contradicting "God's almighty wisdom". All that it contradicts is a purely literal interpretation of the first chapters of Genesis.

This is part of the reason why creationism is so harmful to christianity - because it (creationism) is such a ridiculous, falsified view, about on a par with believing in a flat earth, people who advocate creationism make others think that all christians are whackos...which is plainly not the case.

Evolutionism might not be a base for morals,

At least you got that right.

but I know that evolutionists are materialists.

No, they're not. That's simply nonsense. Worldwide, the vast majority of Christians accept evolution...and they're hardly materialists.

And anyone who reads the history of WWII knows where THAT Godless worldview leads!!!

Umm...no, I've read the history of WWII, and know a fair bit about it. I don't see where materialism comes into it at all.

 

[Edx]

Umm...no, I've read the history of WWII, and know a fair bit about it. I don't see where materialism comes into it at all.

And have you ever read Mein Kampf? You wouldnt ever say Hiter was an atheist!

 

[Electric Skeptic]

And have you ever read Mein Kampf? You wouldnt ever say Hiter was an atheist!

Please, try to read the thread more carefully. The issue is materialism, not atheism.

I have read Mein Kampf.

I would not say Hitler was a materialist.

I would not say Hitler was an atheist, either.