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Why is Christianity opposed to the theory of Evolution?

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Aman777

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Oh so if you wrote a paper you want someone bias and agreeing with your world view? Sorry, that's not how peer review works. Peer review is anonymous and the reviewers are not required to identify themselves.


You don't understand. I have no reason to care what others think since that would take away from my treasure which I am storing up in Heaven. Here is my view: 1Jo 2:27

God set a trap which catches all knowing evolutionists in His snare?

Jon:>>God deliberately deceives people? That would make him a liar.

Not so. It's called speaking in parables as Jesus did:

Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

It's God's method of operation. That is WHY traditional religious view of Genesis is so twisted from what is actually written.



It's because this Historically confirmed Truth totally destroys the incomplete and false Theory of Evolution.

Jon:>>Not even close.

Pretty close, since YOU have offered NO evidence to refute the Historic evidence of How and When the first Humans arrived on this Earth. Here it is again and it requires NO faith in the magical abilities of the False Theory of Evolution, to change prehistoric people into Humans. Gen 6:4
http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/map00-fc.html Try again?
 
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That what evolutionist understand the life, being faster and stronger so that weak spices have better chance to escape from their predators. But they will never escape from death which you believe through which they were stronger and faster.

These sorts of statements stun me. Creationists actually think that organisms have to be immortal in order for evolution to occur. Has our education system failed them this badly?
 
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False, since Adam's Earth was made BEFORE the Big bang of our Cosmos. Gen 1:10 Also, it was almost 9 Billion years AFTER the Big Bang before our Sun lit up. Amen?

So you're a really old Earth Creationist? You believe that the Earth was created before the Big Bang, nearly 14 billion years ago?

I've got to hand it to you, that's a new one on me.
 
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So you're a really old Earth Creationist? You believe that the Earth was created before the Big Bang, nearly 14 billion years ago?

I've got to hand it to you, that's a new one on me.

Fundies, say some crazy stuff, don't they?
 
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Is it because it refutes the idea of Adam and Eve, original sin, and coming of Jesus?
Or are there any other reasons?

All I can say is what it is to me. I had no family traditions imposed on me either way other than listening to my father as a child. He claimed to be an atheist... but when he talked about God..it was in anger. As a child I reasoned..how can one be angry at someone that does not exist? Any time I read or hear people talk about not believing there is a God.. always and I mean always..anger comes in to play sooner or later. Fury at those that refuse to believe as they do and rage at God (who supposedly does not exist) My reasoning is.. why do ''they'' care?

My experience has been a "knowing" (all of my life as far back as I can recall) that God is real and that he will judge us... As an adult, I find out this is confirmed in the Bible. Romans 1:20 NLT For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.

That being said....I now have a question, if anyone would care to answer.

How has science proven we came from nothing? How can 'nothing' create anything? Why is it easier to believe everything came from nothing than a creator?

Seriously.. I don't get it. It perplexes me to no end that well educated and worldly individuals cannot understand why some of us believe in creation or why it would even be an issue to them.

If there is no creator or something or someone we are accountable to.. why isn't there total chaos?

In my opinion..man would have killed himself off billions of years ago IF evolution was the truth.
 
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Oh I see physicists know nothing about evolution and we should disregard whatever it is they have to say about it.

Many scientists have erroneous views about things outside their fields of expertise. There's no reason to suppose that a physicist knows more about evolution than the average guy on the street.

Your assertion was about the fact that some evolutionary scientists hold to "the random theorys". This is why I'm asking you to cite a published scientific paper about evolutionary biology which uses or references in a positive way "the random theorys".
 
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An example of the implausibility of evolution is the eye. Either the eye works from day one or it doesn't work at all. Half an eye or some fraction of the eye will not allow a creature to see or even survive.

Then freshman Zoology 101 would be quite a stunner for you. Guess what I looked at in my Zoo101 course? Animals with half an eye that needed it for survival.

planaria.jpg


Planaria have just half an eye. It is a photosensitive patch in a depressed pit. There is no enclosed eyeball. There are no lenses. It is half an eye, and it works.

Darwin himself said in the Origin of the Species " To suppose that the eye, with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different differences, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest possible degree" (p181).

I love it when creationists use well known quote mines. What better way to demonstrate the dishonesty of the creationist movement than their own words.
 
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Is it because it refutes the idea of Adam and Eve, original sin, and coming of Jesus?
Or are there any other reasons?

http://www.reasons.org/about/who-we-are/hugh-ross
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I hate to scare those who deny evolution, but if you have ever sought or needed medical care, there is a real good chance you were treated with methods that rely on what has been learned from evolutionary science.

I guess a creationist could seek out physicians who also deny evolution, but good luck with that.
 
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Pretty close, since YOU have offered NO evidence to refute the Historic evidence of How and When the first Humans arrived on this Earth.

Your claims, your burden of proof. You know this. Evidence for evolution has been presented to you on multiple occasions here. You reject it because it contradicts your world view.


Cool map. It doesn't support your claims though. You know this
 
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Seriously.. I don't get it. It perplexes me to no end that well educated and worldly individuals cannot understand why some of us believe in creation or why it would even be an issue to them.

The understanding of evolution is essential when it comes to the advancement of modern medicine. There are people who try to get creationism into the science classroom. These people have lost in court on several occasions. It's a complete waste of time. There is a reason to care when people try to put something that is not science in the science classroom. You're free to believe what you want but it is not allowed to be taught in biology.

How has science proven we came from nothing?

Science doesn't try to prove anything. It follows the evidence to a logical conclusion. Abiogenesis is a separate study and is not yet a scientific theory.

Why is it easier to believe everything came from nothing than a creator?

Because we're pattern seeking mammals who need an explanation for things we don't understand. We'd rather make up a bad explanation than have no explanation at all. It's called "God of the Gaps" and it's a fallacy. It goes something like "I don't understand it, God did it" Can you imagine the world you'd live in if we were satisfied with that answer on everything we didn't understand?

If there is no creator or something or someone we are accountable to.. why isn't there total chaos?

Why do we need an eternal babysitter? I'm not sure what your definition of chaos is but humans have this thing called empathy. It's essential to our survival. If you think you'd start doing horrible things if it was proven there wasn't a God, then you wouldn't belong in society and natural selection would quickly dispose of you.

In my opinion..man would have killed himself off billions of years ago IF evolution was the truth.

This is sad. Humans have only been around for no less than 100,000 years, so your "billions" is off by quite a bit.
The evidence for evolution is overwhelming. I have no problem with it at all. I'm alive. I should enjoy the one life I am sure to get.
 
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Because God will not use "death" as part of his creation.
When you look at the evolution, you might have missed millions if not billions of death between those two different species. As we are accepting death as a natural path of life, death only entered the world after Adam sinned.

There is a fine line between creation by design, or evolution which has to have billions x billions of death of life.

Who are you to tell God how He is to create?
 
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Similarity results in a subjective conclusion. As you pointed out, it looks like....and then you made a guess, a supposition, biased by a preconceived evolutionary viewpoint.

That's not evidence for it's not a process based on the scientific method.

Dismissing evidence because it is merely "resemblance" is to dismiss all evidence. "Your honor, the DNA tests prove the defendant is the father." "No, they merely prove his DNA resembles the DNA of the father." "Your honor, the witness has positively identified the assailant." "No, they merely show the defendant closely resembles the assailant."
"Sinner, this is the Bible and it shows you God's plan of salvation". "No, it merely resembles a Holy Text".

The evidence is there and settles the case. One striking fact is that new evidence continues to come to light and continues to support the fact of common descent of all life. Every new species discovered is a test of the hypothesis of the one true tree of life. Every time a new species is discovered the one true tree of life hypothesis passes that test again.
 
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Do they? Are you sure about that? There are plenty of scientists out there that believe in evolution but admit that the evidence currently does not support it. . . .

To me, that is a very weird claim which I very much doubt to be true. But hey, show me!

I suppose any weird thing might have one example. But the phrase "plenty of" means, to me, at least three. Show me! Show me!
 
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Like Phlogiston theory?

Phlogiston theory did explain a lot of facts. However, there were other facts it failed to explain. Once this became clear, and more importantly, once there was an alternate theory that worked better, it was abandoned.

Regardless of the imagined failings of evolutionary theory, it will never be abandoned until a better theory comes along to replace it.

By the way the separate creation of all species hypothesis was held widely but has been replaced by evolution theory. Separate creation of all species had its day. You can't just bring it back. The replacement of the weaker by the stronger theory has taken place in that particular dual.
 
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And yet, you've got vestigial digits on your feet.
Vestigial? Says who? God designed us this way, he decides how many digits we have, regardless of how useful they are or not.
 
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