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die2live said:No. You cannot say that every hardship is punishment from God. Often, suffering is the result of one's sin, but just as often it is not.
Is the little girl who was raped because she was a virgin at fault?
And once again, you ignore the fact that there are hundreds of thousands of Christians who are also suffering horribly from poverty, disease and malnourishment.
And even if these are judgments from God, that is not our right to say. We have no reason or responsibility to determine who is being judged and who is not.
die2live said:And once again, you ignore the fact that there are hundreds of thousands of Christians who are also suffering horribly from poverty, disease and malnourishment.
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die2live said:It doesn't matter whether or not they are Christians. It's not like we can really know that anyway. Just like we can't know if they are being judged, or if God has a totally different reason for letting them suffer (maybe so that rich people like you and I can show Christian love to them and God will reveal himself to them through us. Kinda hard to do if we are sitting in several hundred thousand dollar homes and watching TV or anything else that will distract us from the truth.)
die2live said:It is certainly true that we each have our own gifts. But once again, you mistake gifts with commands. Helping the poor is a command. Not a gift.
die2live said:It is certainly true that we each have our own gifts. But once again, you mistake gifts with commands. Helping the poor is a command. Not a gift.
JimfromOhio said:There are SOME (NOT all) Christians who are wealthy are ignorant of their own spiritual gifts and actually blinded by pride and greed to help. Spiritual ignorance is a bigger problem within a local church. People will ignore the issues and willing to be ignorant Scripturely. There are Christians who are focusing on "me" while God wants us to be humble and stop playing ignorance by "doing" something with their gifts recieved from Him.
Proverbs 14:30
A heart at peace gives life to the body, but envy rots the bones.
1 Corinthians 13:4
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy.
Galatians 5:26
Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.
2 Corinthians 9:6-15
Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work. As it is written:
"He has scattered abroad his gifts to the poor; his righteousness endures forever."
Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness. You will be made rich in every way so that you can be generous on every occasion, and through us your generosity will result in thanksgiving to God. This service that you perform is not only supplying the needs of God's people but is also overflowing in many expressions of thanks to God. Because of the service by which you have proved yourselves, men will praise God for the obedience that accompanies your confession of the gospel of Christ, and for your generosity in sharing with them and with everyone else. And in their prayers for you their hearts will go out to you, because of the surpassing grace God has given you. Thanks be to God for his indescribable gift!
A Brother In Christ said:you verses please
even christians without using God impowerment just think about themselves
phil 2:20-22
die2live said:Not for the first time, I quote Luke 12:33, 1 John 3:17 and hold up the example of the early believers in Acts.
there are no poor in this country !!!die2live said:Lots of people do work. Mothers work alongside their husbands just to provide money, leaving the vast majority of household chores to the children. Poverty does not come from lack of work.
In this country, there are certainly more people that need better teaching.
And those in poverty need teaching in addition to food and water and shelter. And if we had to choose between teaching the word of God and providing for physical needs, obviously we would choose sharing the word of God. But we don't have to make that choice as we have the ability and the responsibility to do both.
If a believer gets rich, that all the more money that can be given to people who need it, after he provides for his own needs so he will not become a burden himself.
A Brother In Christ said:there are no poor in this country !!!
you need to go third world girl ..like Mexico City...they are poor
Are country pours money toward education ...
But people can lead people to water but cannot force them to drink....
education/work/Christ
In this country one can get free Health care/ food/housing/ Car Higher education from the government...what is there excuss
A Brother In Christ said:If the Spirit lead you to give to People looking for a hand out..go head
hopefully you will not be let down...
when they come back asking for more after they gambled it away/drank/ drugs/ getting christmas gifts for the family then they say I have no money for my bills???
A Brother In Christ said:WHY DOESN"T GOD GIVE ALL CHRISTIANS ENOUGH MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF THE POOR? If this is God's will...we would have enough...
there is a lot of spiritual needs in this countrydie2live said:I was not referring to people in this country. I agree that there is no reason for begging for money.
I was referring to the third world, who does need our gifts, both physical and spiritual.
why do you think they are poor in the country ..Some people would certainly do that, I am sure. But not the majority of people who really need it.
I can't claim to know the mind of God . . . but my guess is that the answer to that question would be because most people would use it on new cars and bigger houses rather than on gifts to the poor.
A Brother In Christ said:there is a lot of spiritual needs in this country
even though a lot of people are wealthy they are very poor spiritually
why do you think they are poor in the country ..
some people are lazy
some people cannot divide needs vs wants
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