Why I'm not a young earth creationist...

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Didn't I clearly state that astronomers observe the past every night (and it's always night somewhere)? They can measure the physical constants in distant galaxies and show that they have not changed.

In a universe that's in constant motion though; exact position of star A to star B can't be assumed. If Alfa Centauri is 5 millimeters "that way" in the night sky than it was 2000 years ago (which you have no way of knowing or proving); "physical constants in distant galaxies" are relative.

Yeah there's enough consistency that we recognize it; but it's still not an accurate way to measure the age of the cosmos.
 
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This thread is like someone having just learned multiplications trying to argue partial differential equations.
I was going to say it is like a toddler arguing that 6 + 6 is ten since he ran out of fingers.
 
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This thread is like someone having just learned multiplications trying to argue partial differential equations.

Well than, I guess you better brush up on your math than huh?
 
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Well kid's it's been fun.

I got an education tonight. Thanks for making me do research. You've only served to reinforce what I believe about the Scripture and God.
It is amazing how ignorance can be so self confirming.
 
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The motion of the stars in the sky would be measured as an angle, like 2 degrees change (or more likely in arcseconds).

Do you specialize in being wrong, because you're *very* good at it:


Yeah there's enough consistency that we recognize it; but it's still not an accurate way to measure the age of the cosmos.

We can measure the age of the cosmos to ~1%. Do you know your weight to ~1%?
 
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My math skills are just fine thank you.

You wanna argue partial differential equations now?

Differential equations was a course that I crushed. Forty years ago. Since then I have not used it at all. I know less about that now than I did at the start of that course

I was the first to turn my final in. I had finished it. Went over the whole thing again and found no errors. It was also the first and only final with an "extra credit" question. I did that too. Where did all of that knowledge go?
 
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I'm sure that if you open a textbook on it today it will come back again (with some work).
 
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Did I say you needed to? I didn't ask you all to post to me you know.
By publicly expressing your views on a discussion forum you implicilty invite other members to reply to you. If you were unaware of that, you are now duly informed. (No need to thank me. )
 
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The rare rare rare creo can admit to even one mistake.

Try just the "live animal c14 millions of years" one,
instead of answering all and complaining!

The most crazed creo on earth would surely admit that
C14 is only possible out to roughly 60,000.
 
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And to you it is a parable, could it be you who has not been granted the understanding of the mysteries.

Im not sure what exactly you mean. I’m not saying that Genesis is a parable, I’m saying that the reason the earth appears to be older than it is could be because of the same reason Jesus spoke in parables. So that those who refuse to humble themselves to God will not see the evidence of Him.
 
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Firstly I am female and secondly older than you, but yes we can all be learning.

Well OK. I'm female too and I'm 50; so are you actually older than me?
 
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That's literally how mystery cults work, public knowledge for recruiting and private knowledge for insiders and true believers.

But what does any of this have to do with YEC (pro/con)?

I don’t care what “mystery cults” do, that’s their business I’m merely explaining why God would make the earth appear to be older than it actually is, so that those who reject Him will not be forced to believe in Him based on conclusive evidence.
 
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