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It is not the only with all three. It just depends on what Holy Tadition you follow. This is primarily where the divisions arise; not so much with the other two areas.Monica02 said:Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition and the work of the Holy Spirit is the foundation of the faith. Since the Catholic Church (ie those in full communion with the Vatican) is the only church with all three then "denomination" is very important. I suppose if you do not consider Sacred Tradition important then it would not matter what church you belong to.
A couple of issues here...Monica02 said:Bizzlebin,
There are several Bibles out there. The Protestant one has seven less books than the Catholic one. I am not sure about the Orthodox Bible. Any help on the Orthodox BIble would be appreciated. As for Sacred Tradition, my understanding is that most non-Catholic or Orthodox Christian faith traditions do not acknowledge anything but the Scriptures as their sole rule of faith. Either a church is in cmmunion with Rome or it isn't. If a church is not in communion with Rome it cannnot possibly have the Teaching Authority of the Church. I suppose it could be argued that each individual pastor or churchgoer is their own teaching authority and they themselves would determine what they feel is tradition.
I don't know any Christians who feel they are "their own authority" but rather that Jesus is their authority and the Holy Spriit of God that lives within them. When we come to Jesus, we surrender our will to the will of God and we no longer live for ourselves but we live for the Spirit of God who lives within us.Monica02 said:Bizzlebin,
There are several Bibles out there. The Protestant one has seven less books than the Catholic one. I am not sure about the Orthodox Bible. Any help on the Orthodox BIble would be appreciated. As for Sacred Tradition, my understanding is that most non-Catholic or Orthodox Christian faith traditions do not acknowledge anything but the Scriptures as their sole rule of faith. Either a church is in cmmunion with Rome or it isn't. If a church is not in communion with Rome it cannnot possibly have the Teaching Authority of the Church. I suppose it could be argued that each individual pastor or churchgoer is their own teaching authority and they themselves would determine what they feel is tradition.
You seem to forget that Christ's true church doesn't just consist of the official Catholic church. A church doesn't have to be in communion with Rome to have teaching authority. The truth of the Bible gives mature Christian's in Christ's universal church the authority to teach imho.Monica02 said:If a church is not in communion with Rome it cannnot possibly have the Teaching Authority of the Church.
Their Bible could have more or less books than yours, but it does not change the message. And, where an any Bible does it say one needs to be in communion with Rome? We have the New Testament, which is in fact much of the tradition of the church. Also, we have writings of early church fathers. I will agree that some churches totally disregard these, but many non Catholic churches try to follow the correct tradition, though it may not be from Rome itself.Monica02 said:Bizzlebin,
There are several Bibles out there. The Protestant one has seven less books than the Catholic one. I am not sure about the Orthodox Bible. Any help on the Orthodox BIble would be appreciated. As for Sacred Tradition, my understanding is that most non-Catholic or Orthodox Christian faith traditions do not acknowledge anything but the Scriptures as their sole rule of faith. Either a church is in cmmunion with Rome or it isn't. If a church is not in communion with Rome it cannnot possibly have the Teaching Authority of the Church. I suppose it could be argued that each individual pastor or churchgoer is their own teaching authority and they themselves would determine what they feel is tradition.
Lynn73 said:Yes, that's why I prefer the Christian icon even though I know of at least one or two orthers that would be applicable. "And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch." Acts 11:26
I hope you don't get hit by a bus either. In case you do you will be happy to know that intent to go to confession and true contrition is acceptable if you really con't get there (i.e. - you end up in an ambulance on the way.) The Church has been given the wonderful gift of the sacrament of annointing of the sick for just these times. You may have to make a detour through Purgatory on your journey but , thankfully, you will have al lthe prayers of the faithful for the fathful departed working on your behalf. All those wonderful prayers from the angels and saintsBronxBriar said:ROFLWell you convinced me, shown me the error of my ways! I'm coming back to the one true church! The fullness of the Faith! I'm running to confession and holy communion! Then when I sin again, confess again, and again, and again....Hope I don't get hit by a bus on my way!
The only "thing" that gets souls to Heaven, is Jesus.Monica02 said:I hope you don't get hit by a bus either. In case you do you will be happy to know that intent to go to confession and true contrition is acceptable if you really con't get there (i.e. - you end up in an ambulance on the way.) The Church has been given the wonderful gift of the sacrament of annointing of the sick for just these times. You may have to make a detour through Purgatory on your journey but , thankfully, you will have al lthe prayers of the faithful for the fathful departed working on your behalf. All those wonderful prayers from the angels and saints., especially the Blessed Virgin Mary. Prayers at all of the Holy Masses all over the Earth. Lets not forget all of the indulgences that have been acumulated and offered in your behalf.
Hoe wonderful that Holy Mother Church has all of these sacraments and gifts tho help souls get to Heaven.
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