Depends on what the results of exposing corruption might be.
What say the prophets this morning.
Not throwing a dig, or anything other than an inquiry.
In general, from a prophetic stand point, the governments are beasts.It's really simple from my vantage.
God has never intervened in human will. If He could, we would be living in lives with a whole lot less sin. If He could, everyone would choose Jesus as Lord and Savior. God is long suffering, not willing that any should perish, but all come to repentance. I've read that some where.
That reality stops prevents Divine Intervention in an election. Because who the person votes for is an act of their free will. If God cannot get you to walk away from that sin that you battle daily, how can He possibly make someone who isn't even a believer vote a certain way?
So why did so many prophesy? I think it was a heart cry, not a heavenly message.
In general, from a prophetic stand point, the governments are beasts.
The messenger of the beast speaks against God.
In terms of US election and the motivations of God when He is directly speaking in scripture - a good question is, do either of the parties actually benefit the poor and needy?
If this is not the case, then the nation is like sodom and gommorrah who were wealthy and had lots of food, but didn't care for the needy from within their borders.
Those who align themselves with the beast become prophets of the beast, and to facilitate this prophetic convention - God sends them a strong delusion so that they will believe a lie as the scripture says.
Prophecy indeed still happens, but as is taught in the New testament - we must not despise prophesying - keep what is good, and throw away even the appearance of evil.
Since we in Christ are the new humanity, regressing back to the order of the beast causes creation to miss out on the benefit we could actually provide as a group of redeemed people.
I find Paul's statement to the Romans to respect governing authorities, does not mean to align with them.I find it interesting that during the very heights of Paul’s persecution from a corrupt government and his imprisonments he stated we should submit ourselves to the government. Further more he waged no warfare spiritual or otherwise, made no mention of beasts.
Peter and John when threatened by the government to preach no more in Jesus name only asked for signs and wonders to happen.
You have no basis for claiming Paul waged no spiritual warfare on the demonic powers over Rome (or Israel). His instructions to the church on spiritual warfare would be completely hypocritical if he didn't apply to himself.I find it interesting that during the very heights of Paul’s persecution from a corrupt government and his imprisonments he stated we should submit ourselves to the government. Further more he waged no warfare spiritual or otherwise, made no mention of beasts.
Peter and John when threatened by the government to preach no more in Jesus name only asked for signs and wonders to happen.
You have no basis for claiming Paul waged no spiritual warfare on the demonic powers over Rome (or Israel).
You've got to be joking.you mean besides the simple fact it is shown nowhere in scripture?
You've got to be joking.
Do you seriously believe that Paul commanded the saints to engage in spiritual warfare, when he didn't engage the same himself?
You are just presenting foolish straw man arguments.Remember when there were such errant teaching as:
Boarding planes and praying to war in the heavens
Traveling with black pots and praying against generational spirits of slavery
By calling them silly, you are just exposing your naivety. These things are very real.warring tongues
Breaking generational curses
Vomiting up demons
and such silliness.
Great policy, smearing by association!I read the story of Balaam yesterday. He experienced the supernatural work of God to a degree that I can only dream of but yet he crossed the line into soothsaying.
I've been involved in spiritual warfare for many decades and, apart from generational spirits of slavery, I've never heard of these.
It's really simple from my vantage.
God has never intervened in human will. If He could, we would be living in lives with a whole lot less sin. If He could, everyone would choose Jesus as Lord and Savior. God is long suffering, not willing that any should perish, but all come to repentance. I've read that some where.
That reality stops prevents Divine Intervention in an election. Because who the person votes for is an act of their free will. If God cannot get you to walk away from that sin that you battle daily, how can He possibly make someone who isn't even a believer vote a certain way?
So why did so many prophesy? I think it was a heart cry, not a heavenly message.
I was referring to the previous items. That's why I split your list.I am confused, first you said you had not heard of warring tongues, vomiting up demons and generational curses - then post things to support them.
Why should I provide links to my statements, when they relate to things I have regularly been involved with for maybe 40 years.You provided no links to the statements, nor any scriptural support so I cannot comment on the veracity of what you posted beyond letting readers know they are, IMHO, errant teaching which thankfully, no longer practiced except in very small groups.
That passage (one of my favourites) wasn't about "who they wanted as a political leader".1 Sam 8 is a great chapter showing an example of what I am referring to. The people of Israel wanted a King to rule over them, God in no way wanted that, but recognized that he could not change their will, so He warned them what would happen and then:
1 Sam 8:19 Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, “No, but we will have a king over us, 20 that we also may be like all the nations, and that our king may judge us and go out before us and fight our battles.” 21 And Samuel heard all the words of the people, and he repeated them in the hearing of the Lord. 22 So the Lord said to Samuel, “Heed their voice, and make them a king.”God did not circumvent the will of the people re who they wanted as a political leader then, and He does not change. He will not do so today either.
There is absolutely nothing in that scripture to indicate God would not reveal to the prophets who a future king or president might be. In fact scripture repeatedly proves that very thing.That is one of the reasons why you cannot accurately prophesy the outcome of an election.
I was referring to the previous items. That's why I split your list.
Why should I provide links to my statements, when they relate to things I have regularly been involved with for maybe 40 years.
I also know they are part of the armoury of most Christians involved in spiritual warfare or deliverance.
So to claim they are no longer practiced is just ignorance of the facts.
Tellme, have you ever done any deliverance?
That passage (one of my favourites) wasn't about "who they wanted as a political leader".
They wanted a king, any king, so they could be like the nations around them, despite God saying they were not to be anything like those nations.
They had no idea who the king would be.
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