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Do you agree with this remark about absurdity?Read it for yourself.
Humans are animals. It's absurd to think that we are not...
Why did you bring up Moses? Taxonomy has nothing to do with Moses. What on earth is the relevance?Do you agree with this remark about absurdity?
The difference is in the foot, not in the toe joints.Yet the rest of our toes are very capable of being prehensile.
The difference is in the foot, not in the toe joints.
A prehensile foot carries an opposable big toe which humans do not have.
Human toes have joints that allow them some measure of grasp, but this is no different from an elephant holding a ball in the joints of its legs.
No it isn't.Nevertheless, it is clear that the shape of the human foot is closely related to the shape of the other primate feet.
Except that all primates have the same prehensile feet, which humans conveniently do not have.All species will have something different from other species in the larger group, or else they wouldn't be a separate species. So this argument against we humans being primates isn't valid.
Sorry, but all I will see is a skeletal structure. I will not see anything descending.Yet if you look at the skeletal structure of a human foot, you will see it is descended from a being with the similar foot structure to a chimpanzee.
Anyone can invent a make-belief story to explain foot structures, but it is still a make-belief story.Follow this link and you can see that they discuss how, while human feet are different than a chimp's feet, they are related.
The difference is not in the structure of the toes, it is in the structure of the feet. Grasping with toes is not the difference, grasping with feet is the difference.Specifically look at the photos of the human climbing a tree barefoot compared to a chimp climbing a tree. You will see that they both do the same thing: they use their toes to grasp the tree.
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The human hands is closely related to the shape of primate feet.
It's not difficult to see which one of these feet is not like the others:
Except that all primates have the same prehensile feet, which humans conveniently do not have.
Sorry, but all I will see is a skeletal structure. I will not see anything descending.
Anyone can invent a make-belief story to explain foot structures, but it is still a make-belief story.
The difference is not in the structure of the toes, it is in the structure of the feet. Grasping with toes is not the difference, grasping with feet is the difference.
Humans do not have prehensile feet to grasp like primates do.
Our toes have three joints that allow us to grasp objects with our toes.Our toes are prehensile. They are not the same as the joints in an elephants knees.
Our toes have three joints that allow us to grasp objects with our toes.
Elephant legs have three joints that allow them to grasp objects with their legs.
I agree.
It is having grasping feet that differentiates primates from humans.
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Very impressive.
It would be even more impressive if she could do this:
Yes, I agree that humans do not have the prehensile feet that is evident in apes and monkeys.Humans do not have the same prehensile ability that is evident in apes and monkeys
If that story works for you, great.but that is because we are more adapted to a life on the floor than in the trees.
Yes, humans evolving from apes is a story we were led to believe.But the fact you call the evidence of humans evolving from apes a 'make-believe story' really tells me all I need to know about your view on the matter.
Yes, I agree that humans do not have the prehensile feet that is evident in apes and monkeys.
If that story works for you, great.
Yes, humans evolving from apes is a story we were led to believe.
I agree.That's not the same as having prehensile toes.
My view on the topic is that humans do not have prehensile feet like primates do. That's a fact regardless of what we choose to believe about evolution.But as I said, your statement of the fossil evidence being evidence of a 'make-believe story' tells me all I need to know about your view on this topic.
My view on the topic is that humans do not have prehensile feet like primates do. That's a fact regardless of what we choose to believe about evolution.
As long as we agree it's a story.
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