Why Homosexuality Is Wrong

[jayem]

It underminds real caring and sharing. It reduces love to mere behavior patterns. It is self-centered/servicing and not family devoted. It corrupts by enticing and influencing the youth to try & perform the once unthinkable & unimaginable. It discredits common decency and belittles those that abhor public exhibitionism. It is an afront to children by attempting to turn such into adults far before it is their time.

With at least 40% of first marriages ending in divorce (and higher rates for 2nd and 3rd marriages) it's hard to say that heterosexuality is a paragon of caring, sharing, selflessness, family devotion, and setting a good example for children.

 

[quatona]

With at least 40% of first marriages ending in divorce (and higher rates for 2nd and 3rd marriages) it's hard to say that heterosexuality is a paragon of caring, sharing, selflessness, family devotion, and setting a good example for children.

Without there being homosexuality there wouldn´t be any divorces. It´s all the result of homosexuality undermining the entire society.

 

[BigBadWlf]

I believe it does hurt society,

How?
Please provide concrete real world examples

but I feel that people today do not care about society in general. They only care about themselves and what they want.

You are right, Fundamentalists who advocate and justify prejudice and discrimination don’t care about anyone or anything other then their own selfish perverse desires

 

[BigBadWlf]

It underminds real caring and sharing.

No its anti-gay hatred that does that
It is impossible to care about members of a minority while at the same time promoting discrimination against them

It reduces love to mere behavior patterns.

No its anti-gay hatred that does that
Fundamentalist endorsing hatred try to claim that gays and lesbians don’t have “real” relationships and reject the notion of love reducing it to a sexual behavior (like you are doing here) because it helps dehumanize the minority making hate against them more acceptable

It is self-centered/servicing

No its anti-gay hatred that does that
Those who seek discrimination don’t care about society other than to force society to accept their personal prejudices as moral and right. In doing so they reject and alienate the minority they have chosen to hate crippling society and reducing it to the lowest common denominator.


To seek to justify discrimination is to demonstrate complete lack of empathy for other human beings and is the ultimate in self serving behavior

and not family devoted.

No its anti-gay hatred that is anti-family.
One cannot claim to be ‘pro-family’ while rejecting families themselves. The families of gays and lesbians are families and to lie and pretend that somehow they are not is one of the most hateful and self serving things imaginable. Telling the lie that somehow an entire minority is against the family only serves to damage the family

It corrupts by enticing and influencing the youth to try & perform the once unthinkable & unimaginable.

Another lie.
Please explain why it is moral acceptable for Christians to lie about an entire minority.

It discredits common decency

No its anti-gay hatred that does that just as any form of hatred does

and belittles those that abhor public exhibitionism.

You mean public exhibition like wedding rings and Bride Magazine and wedding and anniversary announcement in the newspaper?
Or is “exhibition” like these only wrong when members of minorities engage in such things?

It is an afront to children by attempting to turn such into adults far before it is their time.

No its anti-gay hatred that is damaging to children because it teaches them that bigotry is acceptable



IF you are claiming these things hurt society...then the only one hurting society here…is you

 

[EnemyPartyII]

I believe it does hurt society, but I feel that people today do not care about society in general. They only care about themselves and what they want.

How?

Provide conclusive no- biased empirical evidence that homosexuality is "harmful to society", and I solemnly swear to marry the next man that asks.

 

[trivista]

It underminds real caring and sharing. It reduces love to mere behavior patterns. It is self-centered/servicing and not family devoted. It corrupts by enticing and influencing the youth to try & perform the once unthinkable & unimaginable. It discredits common decency and belittles those that abhor public exhibitionism. It is an afront to children by attempting to turn such into adults far before it is their time.

Exaggerate much?

 

[trivista]

I care what people think. I try to set a good example both publicly and I try hard privately.

Then how do you explain your behavior on this forum?

 

[CriticalMassKitten]

How?

Provide conclusive no- biased empirical evidence that homosexuality is "harmful to society", and I solemnly swear to marry the next man that asks.

Sorry, I already asked that question and just got that he "states his opinions," when his opinions became fact, as stated there, I'll never know. I'd still like an answer to this question though, as well.

 

[Maren]

No its anti-gay hatred that does that
It is impossible to care about members of a minority while at the same time promoting discrimination against them

No its anti-gay hatred that does that
Fundamentalist endorsing hatred try to claim that gays and lesbians don’t have “real” relationships and reject the notion of love reducing it to a sexual behavior (like you are doing here) because it helps dehumanize the minority making hate against them more acceptable





No its anti-gay hatred that does that
Those who seek discrimination don’t care about society other than to force society to accept their personal prejudices as moral and right. In doing so they reject and alienate the minority they have chosen to hate crippling society and reducing it to the lowest common denominator.


To seek to justify discrimination is to demonstrate complete lack of empathy for other human beings and is the ultimate in self serving behavior


No its anti-gay hatred that is anti-family.
One cannot claim to be ‘pro-family’ while rejecting families themselves. The families of gays and lesbians are families and to lie and pretend that somehow they are not is one of the most hateful and self serving things imaginable. Telling the lie that somehow an entire minority is against the family only serves to damage the family



Another lie.
Please explain why it is moral acceptable for Christians to lie about an entire minority.




No its anti-gay hatred that does that just as any form of hatred does



You mean public exhibition like wedding rings and Bride Magazine and wedding and anniversary announcement in the newspaper?
Or is “exhibition” like these only wrong when members of minorities engage in such things?


No its anti-gay hatred that is damaging to children because it teaches them that bigotry is acceptable



IF you are claiming these things hurt society...then the only one hurting society here…is you

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BigBadWlf again.

 

[Aeris]

It underminds real caring and sharing.

How homosexuals are just as capable of "caring and sharing" as heteros

It reduces love to mere behavior patterns. It is self-centered/servicing and not family devoted.

How is hetero love based any less on behaviour patterns? And there are homosexual couples who wish to marry (or live common law if marriage isnt available where they live) and adopt kids how is that not family devoted? Other than being the same sex how is a gay couple that adopts any different than an infertile hetero couple

It corrupts by enticing and influencing the youth to try & perform the once unthinkable & unimaginable.

Homosexuality isnt a choice, so someones not just going to decide to be homosexual, especially with the discrimination against homosexuals. Although I guess it could influence them to become more accepting of people who are different, but I dont see how that is a bad thing.

It discredits common decency and belittles those that abhor public exhibitionism. It is an afront to children by attempting to turn such into adults far before it is their time.

Discrediting common decency is your opinion, homosexuals are decent people, there may be some that are indecent however there are indecent hetros too. Public Exhibtionism: I really dont see how this is anymore of a problem than with heteros. "It is an afront to children by attempting to turn such into adults far before it is there time." Im not sure what you mean by this.

 

[Baggins]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BigBadWlf again.

Ditto

 

[Caylin]

For any christian who thinks homosexuality is wrong in biblical grounds, contact me via PM, and I'll meet up with you to give you a chance at stoning me to death with accordance to your holy book.

 

[TeddyKGB]

For any christian who thinks homosexuality is wrong in biblical grounds, contact me via PM, and I'll meet up with you to give you a chance at stoning me to death with accordance to your holy book.

That's not much of a risk. I've been stoned dozens of times and never once came close to dying.

 

[TheManeki]

It underminds real caring and sharing. It reduces love to mere behavior patterns. It is self-centered/servicing and not family devoted. It corrupts by enticing and influencing the youth to try & perform the once unthinkable & unimaginable. It discredits common decency and belittles those that abhor public exhibitionism. It is an afront to children by attempting to turn such into adults far before it is their time.

The list of potential problems in the quoted post is nice and generic. It sounds like the same problems fundamentalists have said are caused by Harry Potter, Pokemon, Dungeons & Dragons, rock and roll music, and (dare I say) interracial marriage and the civil rights movement. And, of course, there is no proof presented for all these claims -- because there is none to present.

The above post also propagates some of the usual stereotypes that attempt to make homosexuals less than human: homosexuals are self-centered, libidinous, incapable of love ("not family devoted" to use LN's words), corruptors, etc.

It's rather interesting that the quoted post is using some phrases to stereotype homosexuals that are similar to those used to stereotype other minorities. If you study this type of propaganda throughout the past 100 years -- like the Jim Crow-era US, Germany in the 1930s -- you see certain patterns in stereotypes emerge. The group that is stereotyped has a voracious sexual appetite, low intelligence (but some kind of cunning skill to make up for the lack of intelligence), and an overwhelming desire to corrupt the innocent, for example. The quoted post doesn't cover all the bases, but I've seen plenty of other posts here that do.

 

[Skavau]

It underminds real caring and sharing.

It does the exact opposite. It offers liberty for homosexuals to have real caring and sharing via relationships. It is those that wish to remove it from society that undermine reality. It is those that attack homosexuality that want to regulate what is 'love'. Not homosexuality.

By forbidding or attempting to attack homosexuality based on religious conviction, you do exactly what you accuse homosexuality of.

It reduces love to mere behavior patterns.

And you reduce love to what God wants.

It is self-centered/servicing and not family devoted.

This is an unevidenced, unsubstantiated piece of rubbish and it is quite frankly an insult to all homosexual couples out there. On what grounds do you have to generalise all homosexual relationships? Absolutely none whatsoever.

Moreover, define 'family devoted'.

It corrupts by enticing and influencing the youth to try & perform the once unthinkable & unimaginable.

Define 'corruption' and show me how homosexuality by definition does the above.

 

[LittleNipper]

The list of potential problems in the quoted post is nice and generic. It sounds like the same problems fundamentalists have said are caused by Harry Potter, Pokemon, Dungeons & Dragons, rock and roll music, and (dare I say) interracial marriage and the civil rights movement. And, of course, there is no proof presented for all these claims -- because there is none to present.

The above post also propagates some of the usual stereotypes that attempt to make homosexuals less than human: homosexuals are self-centered, libidinous, incapable of love ("not family devoted" to use LN's words), corruptors, etc.

It's rather interesting that the quoted post is using some phrases to stereotype homosexuals that are similar to those used to stereotype other minorities. If you study this type of propaganda throughout the past 100 years -- like the Jim Crow-era US, Germany in the 1930s -- you see certain patterns in stereotypes emerge. The group that is stereotyped has a voracious sexual appetite, low intelligence (but some kind of cunning skill to make up for the lack of intelligence), and an overwhelming desire to corrupt the innocent, for example. The quoted post doesn't cover all the bases, but I've seen plenty of other posts here that do.

What a lot of heterosexuals do is just as evil and corrupt. I even heard a "heterosexual" claim he was turned on by watching two girls going at it! The guy is nothing but a creep. Such practices are what have brought homosexuality out of the closet. Magazines, books, pictures and movies are just excuses to be immoral. It's all down hill from the Romper Room days....

 

[TheManeki]

What a lot of heterosexuals do is just as evil and corrupt. I even heard a "heterosexual" claim he was turned on by watching two girls going at it! The guy is nothing but a creep. Such practices are what have brought homosexuality out of the closet. Magazines, books, pictures and movies are just excuses to be immoral. It's all down hill from the Romper Room days....

If you want your claims to be taken seriously, you're going to have to show some rigorous studies that support your position. The repetition of stereotyping and vague claims of social corruption caused by whatever some group finds offensive (Harry Potter, rock and roll music, interracial marriage, etc) doesn't work.

Care to try again?

 

[Skavau]

What a lot of heterosexuals do is just as evil and corrupt. I even heard a "heterosexual" claim he was turned on by watching two girls going at it!

Wow.

You show signs of incredible sexual repression. A lot of straight men are turned on by two women going at it.

Such practices are what have brought homosexuality out of the closet.

Yeah. And?

 

[stan1980]

I even heard a "heterosexual" claim he was turned on by watching two girls going at it! The guy is nothing but a creep.

You can add me to your list of creeps then.

If i gave a lesbian porno flick to a heterosexual man, and they said they didn't get turned on by not just one beautiful woman, but two beautiful woman, i might just start to doubt their sexuality. Erm, is there anything you need to get off your chest LittleNipper?

 

[Skaloop]

You show signs of incredible sexual repression. A lot of straight men are turned on by two women going at it.

Many straight men are even turned on by two men going at it. Many men can be turned on by just about anyone going at it with anyone else.