Why Evolution is True (3)

[Subduction Zone]

You are the little fella here.

No dad, when it comes to mental prowess that would be you.

Once again, do you want to learn or were you just running your mouth?

 

[Usus Vox Tractus]

That means you are antichrist. Watch out kids.


1Jo 4:3 - And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

What part of "Jesus Christ" never passed the lips of man as a phrase until 500 years ago, do you not understand?

I have experienced directly, in flesh, the awesome reality of the Son of God and his saving and damning power. My living faith is directly authored from the Authority. Your condemnation of me is laughable and impotent.


Fact: Not a single one of his disciples ever called him "Jesus Christ" . The man himself never ever referred to himself as "Jesus Christ"

"The Name" the one He said was oh so important, is not "Jesus Christ". Every name in the bible means something. Jesus is aberrant and meaningless. It has been promoted this way to pervert the Truth. Lies are wrapped around a false name and "Jesus" is demonstrably a false name.


Condemn people out of complete ignorance at your own risk.

 

[morse86]

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Fact: Not a single one of his disciples ever called him "Jesus Christ" . The man himself never ever referred to himself as "Jesus Christ"

That is wrong!


Matthew 16:20: charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.

Acts 4:10: Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand

Acts 28:31: those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.

Romans 5:15: grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

1 Corinthians 3:11: For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.


I got tons of other verses. There is only one name that we must be saved by and that is Jesus Christ, period.

Acts 4:12: there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Philippians 2:9-1
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


Mathew 16:13-16
When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not
revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

It's official.....God himself said he was the Christ (that's not even counting the verses just in the first book Genesis).

 

[createdtoworship]

Do you even know what qualifies as evidence?

Most creationists don't.

For example have you ever responded to a post where someone has offered what he said is evidence and denied him by saying "That's not evidence", then the odds are that you do not know what qualifies as scientific evidence.

again, everything you propose is regarding macro evolution as it relates to scientific evidence. Yet how can something that is unobserved (macro evolution) constitute even to be a scientific theory, without observation?

observation meaning evidence that man came from monkeys, or whales from Dog like creatures etc.

If it is unobserved the hypothesis cannot be tested. And therefore it cannot be empiricle science.

lastly, if items that are unobserved can be classified as empiricle science, then so too, can God. Or religion etc. They can all be classified as science at that point.

 

[Usus Vox Tractus]

That is wrong!


Matthew 16:20: charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.

Acts 4:10: Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand

Acts 28:31: those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.

Romans 5:15: grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

1 Corinthians 3:11: For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.


I got tons of other verses. There is only one name that we must be saved by and that is Jesus Christ, period.

Acts 4:12: there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Philippians 2:9-1
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

And you are simply uninformed.I just love transliterations of translations of translations, don't you? Have some etymology!Etymology and origins: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_(name)The proper name Jesus /ˈdʒiːzəs/ used in the English language originates from the Latin form of the Greek name Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous), a rendition of the Hebrew Yeshua (ישו&#1506, also having the variants Joshua or Jeshua.[1][2] In a religious context the name refers to Jesus, the central figure of Christianity.The word Jesus used in the New Testament comes from the Latin form of the Greek name Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous), a rendition of the Hebrew Yeshua (ישו&#1506, also used as Joshua or Yesua.[1][2] The name is thus related to the Hebrew consonantal verb root verb y-š-ʕ (to rescue or deliver) and the Hebrew noun yešuaʕ (deliverance).[4] There have been a number of proposals as to the origin and etymological origin of the name Jesus (cf. Matthew 1:21). The name is related to the Hebrew form [Yehoshua`] יְהוֹשֻׁעַ Joshua, which is a theophoric name first mentioned within the Biblical tradition in Exodus 17:9. This name is usually considered to be a compound of two parts: יהו Yeho, a theophoric reference to YHWH, the name of the God of Israel, plus Hosea a form derived from the Hebrew triconsonantal root y-š-ʕ or י-ש-ע Numbers 13:16 "to liberate, save". There have been various proposals as to how the literal etymological meaning of the name should be translated, including: YHWH saves, (is) salvation, (is) a saving-cry, (is) a cry-for-saving, (is) a cry-for-help, (is) my help.[5][6][7][8][9]This early Biblical Hebrew name יְהוֹשֻׁעַ Yehoshua` underwent a shortening into later Biblical יֵשׁוּעַ Yeshua`, as found in the Hebrew text of verses Ezra 2:2, 2:6, 2:36, 2:40, 3:2, 3:8, 3:9, 3:10, 3:18, 4:3, 8:33; Nehemiah 3:19, 7:7, 7:11, 7:39, 7:43, 8:7, 8:17, 9:4, 9:5, 11:26, 12:1, 12:7, 12:8, 12:10, 12:24, 12:26; 1 Chronicles 24:11; and 2 Chronicles 31:15 – as well as in Biblical Aramaic at verse Ezra 5:2. These Bible verses refer to ten individuals (in Nehemiah 8:17, the name refers to Joshua son of Nun). This historical change may have been due to a phonological shift whereby guttural phonemes weakened, including [h].[10] Usually, the traditional theophoric element Yahu יהו was shortened at the beginning of a name to יו Yo-, and at the end to יה -yah. In the contraction of Yehoshua` to Yeshua`, the vowel is instead fronted (perhaps due to the influence of the y in the triliteral root y-š-&#703. During the post-Biblical period the further shortened form Yeshu was adopted by Aramaic and Hebrew speaking Jews to refer to the Christian Jesus, however Yehoshua continued to be used for the other figures called Jesus.[11]Historical fact: No one called Him Jesus while he was alive. They called him Yehoshua which means "God the Father saves" which agrees with the rest of the bible. "Jesus" is a culturally meaningless name, quit convenient for wrapping around false doctrine and perverted dogma for the enslaving of man."EE-yo-shu-ah" is not "Gee-zus" .You might not be concerned with the actual meaning of His actual Name, but He said it was important, so I tend to take it seriously.

 

[Subduction Zone]

again, everything you propose is regarding macro evolution as it relates to scientific evidence. Yet how can something that is unobserved (macro evolution) constitute even to be a scientific theory, without observation?

observation meaning evidence that man came from monkeys, or whales from Dog like creatures etc.

If it is unobserved the hypothesis cannot be tested. And therefore it cannot be empiricle science.

Scientists are not limited to your very limited definition of observation.

We can observe evolution in the fossil record, we can observe evolution in DNA. We can observe evolution in the many independent phylogenetic trees that we can see.

And everything we observe is not necessarily evidence.

Clearly you need to learn what scientific evidence is too.

The classroom is always open.

 

[morse86]

And you are simply uninformed.I just love transliterations of translations of translations, don't you? Have some etymology!Etymology and origins: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_(name)The proper name Jesus /ˈdʒiːzəs/ used in the English language originates from the Latin form of the Greek name Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous), a rendition of the Hebrew Yeshua (ישו&#1506, also having the variants Joshua or Jeshua.[1][2] In a religious context the name refers to Jesus, the central figure of Christianity.The word Jesus used in the New Testament comes from the Latin form of the Greek name Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous), a rendition of the Hebrew Yeshua (ישו&#1506, also used as Joshua or Yesua.[1][2] The name is thus related to the Hebrew consonantal verb root verb y-š-ʕ (to rescue or deliver) and the Hebrew noun yešuaʕ (deliverance).[4] There have been a number of proposals as to the origin and etymological origin of the name Jesus (cf. Matthew 1:21). The name is related to the Hebrew form [Yehoshua`] יְהוֹשֻׁעַ Joshua, which is a theophoric name first mentioned within the Biblical tradition in Exodus 17:9. This name is usually considered to be a compound of two parts: יהו Yeho, a theophoric reference to YHWH, the name of the God of Israel, plus Hosea a form derived from the Hebrew triconsonantal root y-š-ʕ or י-ש-ע Numbers 13:16 "to liberate, save". There have been various proposals as to how the literal etymological meaning of the name should be translated, including: YHWH saves, (is) salvation, (is) a saving-cry, (is) a cry-for-saving, (is) a cry-for-help, (is) my help.[5][6][7][8][9]This early Biblical Hebrew name יְהוֹשֻׁעַ Yehoshua` underwent a shortening into later Biblical יֵשׁוּעַ Yeshua`, as found in the Hebrew text of verses Ezra 2:2, 2:6, 2:36, 2:40, 3:2, 3:8, 3:9, 3:10, 3:18, 4:3, 8:33; Nehemiah 3:19, 7:7, 7:11, 7:39, 7:43, 8:7, 8:17, 9:4, 9:5, 11:26, 12:1, 12:7, 12:8, 12:10, 12:24, 12:26; 1 Chronicles 24:11; and 2 Chronicles 31:15 – as well as in Biblical Aramaic at verse Ezra 5:2. These Bible verses refer to ten individuals (in Nehemiah 8:17, the name refers to Joshua son of Nun). This historical change may have been due to a phonological shift whereby guttural phonemes weakened, including [h].[10] Usually, the traditional theophoric element Yahu יהו was shortened at the beginning of a name to יו Yo-, and at the end to יה -yah. In the contraction of Yehoshua` to Yeshua`, the vowel is instead fronted (perhaps due to the influence of the y in the triliteral root y-š-&#703. During the post-Biblical period the further shortened form Yeshu was adopted by Aramaic and Hebrew speaking Jews to refer to the Christian Jesus, however Yehoshua continued to be used for the other figures called Jesus.[11]Historical fact: No one called Him Jesus while he was alive. They called him Yehoshua which means "God the Father saves" which agrees with the rest of the bible. "Jesus" is a culturally meaningless name, quit convenient for wrapping around false doctrine and perverted dogma for the enslaving of man."EE-yo-shu-ah" is not "Gee-zus" .You might not be concerned with the actual meaning of His actual Name, but He said it was important, so I tend to take it seriously.

I gave you direct verses from the word of God.

You gave me mans opinion/garbage from wordly sources like wickedpedia.

Romans 1:22: Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

 

[Subduction Zone]

I gave you direct verses from the word of God.

You gave me mans opinion/garbage from wordly sources like wickedpedia.

Romans 1:22: Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Sorry, not even the Bible makes the claim that it is the "word of God".

No false idols, remember? You seem to be making a false idol of the Bible.

 

[morse86]

Sorry, not even the Bible makes the claim that it is the "word of God".

No false idols, remember? You seem to be making a false idol of the Bible.

John 1:1-3
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.


We put the word of God into paper. The bible IS the word of god.

 

[Subduction Zone]

John 1:1-3
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.


We put the word of God into paper. The bible IS the word of god.

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Nope, that is only your interpretation of a vague text.

Try again.

 

[morse86]

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Nope, that is only your interpretation of a vague text.

Try again.

Romans 1:22: Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

 

[Subduction Zone]

Romans 1:22: Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Another fail on your part. If anything that is a verse that refers to you.

 

[dad]

No dad, when it comes to mental prowess that would be you.

Once again, do you want to learn or were you just running your mouth?

You have been exposed as having nothing to say. If you learn to speak to humans get back to us junior.

 

[dad]

Are you willing to cooperate? I am not going to help an unresponsive student.

Some of us may be willing to let you take the cap off and come out of the corner. You will need to earn it big time though after your long series of fails.

 

[dad]

What part of "Jesus Christ" never passed the lips of man as a phrase until 500 years ago, do you not understand?

I have experienced directly, in flesh, the awesome reality of the Son of God and his saving and damning power. My living faith is directly authored from the Authority. Your condemnation of me is laughable and impotent.


Fact: Not a single one of his disciples ever called him "Jesus Christ" . The man himself never ever referred to himself as "Jesus Christ"

"The Name" the one He said was oh so important, is not "Jesus Christ". Every name in the bible means something. Jesus is aberrant and meaningless. It has been promoted this way to pervert the Truth. Lies are wrapped around a false name and "Jesus" is demonstrably a false name.


Condemn people out of complete ignorance at your own risk.

You have shown clearly what spirit you are from. Now that you confess to being antichrist openly, I suggest you peddle religion elsewhere and grow some science.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You have been exposed as having nothing to say. If you learn to speak to humans get back to us junior.

LOL!

Seriously dad, your delusional state is overpowering you.

I offered to help a poor benighted member and that is the thanks I get.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Some of us may be willing to let you take the cap off and come out of the corner. You will need to earn it big time though after your long series of fails.

Yes, you have had an incredibly long record of fails dad.

If you learn what evidence is you might win an argument for once.

But if you prefer to be ever defeated then keep on in your present course.

 

[dad]

Yes, you have had an incredibly long record of fails dad.

If you learn what evidence is you might win an argument for once.

But if you prefer to be ever defeated then keep on in your present course.

Actually, I hitched my wagon to the Bright and Morning Star. His word indicates a future and past that is different from right now in fundamental ways. That explains how Genesis is true and how science is wrong.

You could not prove the state of the past was as you claim, and your forays into the realm of the bible will embarrass evos for some time to come. Try to replace the cheap and meaningless post as much as you can approach, with a more thoughtful, intelligent and respectful and somewhat honest approach.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Actually, I hitched my wagon to the Bright and Morning Star. His word indicates a future and past that is different from right now in fundamental ways. That explains how Genesis is true and how science is wrong.

You could not prove the state of the past was as you claim, and your forays into the realm of the bible will embarrass evos for some time to come. Try to replace the cheap and meaningless post as much as you can approach, with a more thoughtful, intelligent and respectful and somewhat honest approach.

Actually we have proven the past state, but that is besides the point.

The burden of proof is upon you. If you can't prove your different past state then it is delusional.

So dad, how goes the proof for your delusional state?

 

[Usus Vox Tractus]

I gave you direct verses from the word of God.

You gave me mans opinion/garbage from wordly sources like wickedpedia.

Romans 1:22: Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

I gave you the translations of the Name over time through several langauges. If you had bothered to read it you would understand. Are you under the delusion that Yeshua and his disciples spoke English?

"Wickedpedia" LMAO!!! Doesn't the demonization of things make you feel oh so much more righteous???


Try Aramaic. The actually language that "Jesus" and His disciples spoke.

Acts 4:10
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
“Let this be known to you and to all the people of Israel, that in the name of Yeshua The Messiah, the Nazarene, him whom you have crucified, whom God has raised from among the dead, behold, in it and by him this man stands before you whole.”