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No one is fooling anyone, but science has limits.Certainly God can do things that transcend our limited rational capacity. But I do not think that He deceives those who study natural sciences into thinking the earth is much older than it actually is.
I am totally baffled that anyone could believe the earth is 6000 years old.This certainly makes me laugh when they say the earth is millions of years old, where do they get their figures from ?
I am totally baffled that anyone could believe the earth is 6000 years old.
And thousand years for God is a day for us. Oops, sorry I broke your math.True I don't know, but scripture tells me different.
A day for God is a thousand years for us.
So I got it backwards, so what, I mean't it the same.And thousand years for God is a day for us. Oops, sorry I broke your math.
It’s still baffling.Actualy the earth is more than 6000 years old, God made the earth in 7 days ( a day for God is a thousand years for us) = 7,000 years plus the ages that have gone by. which brings us upto about 13,000 years.
Six days.Actualy the earth is more than 6000 years old, God made the earth in 7 days
By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.
No, as I have said, Peter says that for the Lord a day is LIKE 1,000 years.( a day for God is a thousand years for us)
So 7,000 years went by before God created the earth?= 7,000 years plus the ages that have gone by. which brings us upto about 13,000 years.
You missed the point, again.
The earth is way older than 13,000 years.
So, think about it. Its obviously not any key to "decipher" the age of anything, its a literary device to illustrate that our perception of time is different from God's.Oops your right, a thousand years for God is a day for us, Soz.
Maybe a few hundred scientists, astronomers, palaeontologists etc - some of whom are/have been Christians - who know about such things.What makes you think this ?
You obviously keep missing it, so here is is again "1,000 years for us is LIKE a day"Oops your right, a thousand years for God is a day for us, Soz.
What makes you think this ?
I was going to say that I know this because I went to school. Your answer is better.Maybe a few hundred scientists, astronomers, palaeontologists etc - some of whom are/have been Christians - who know about such things.
Good answer.Before we can answer that, first you'd need to answer the following:
Do you believe that there is a real world of objective and observable phenomena?
Let me offer a concrete example of what I mean: If I look with my two eyes and see an orange in a fruit bowl, and I take that orange into my hand, peel that orange, then eat that orange--it tastes like an orange, it's juice, sweet, a little tart. Did that actually happen? Was the orange real? Did what I see actually exist? Is what I did something that really happened?
Now, something more broad: Does the world actually exist? Are the things I see actually real? Are my perceptions of the world--through my eyes, my nose, my sense of touch, etc--real? Is this an objective, real, actual world with real, actual, and objective existence. And can anything be known about it through direct observation, direct experience, and by learning about it?
Is the world real, or is the world an illusion?
Because if the world is real, then we can learn about the world through observation, experience, and methods of testing.
But if the world is not real, but merely an illusion of some kind, then all of that goes out the window.
So we first have to establish whether the world is real, and if it is real, then we can probably find a way of testing its age. And if there is a way of testing its age, and if that is found out through objective standards of testing, with repeated consistency, then we can therefore have a reasonable sense of age and knowledge about it.
But that relies on the world being real.
And if the world isn't real, then we have more problems to worry about than arguing about how old everything is.
-CryptoLutheran
Maybe a few hundred scientists, astronomers, palaeontologists etc - some of whom are/have been Christians - who know about such things.
You must study the field for quite a lot of years and then prove yourself in your work. You cannot just label yourself a scientist and start publishing.Just because they have labeled themselves doesn't make them right.
I was going to say that I know this because I went to school.
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