Why Dr. Dino doesnt equate to Dr. Penniless

[Smilin]

Today at 06:08 PM NebraskaMan said this in Post #38

Don't you think it is only slightly obtuse to be so pre-disposed to your own belief that you never pick up the literature of those who contradict you?

I have reviewed his material... and we've discussed it quite in depth here on the forum...

I just simply said I was sorry you wasted your money on his videos when you could have examined his claims here for free.

 

[Smilin]

Today at 06:09 PM NebraskaMan said this in Post #39

I should note that based on my name everyone should be aware that I don't really exist. I am a nebulous entity.

Greetings entity of the Universe...

We love alien life forms here... (You'll find a very friendly Klingon and Borg here)

and I'll note that I am not a true person, simply a legend of the Native American Cherokees.

 

[NebraskaMan]

To show the Bible doesn't support any scientific field is a very simple task.

To say this, requires that the Bible supports evidence to the contrary or against:

The DNA structure, Relativity, Gravity, Time, Space, the America's, Australia, Greenland, Iceland, Antarctica, structure of the univers (i.e. other Galaxies)

Maybe what I should have said is that the Bible refutes the theory of evolution, because the Bible does not refute the other scientific fields you have elaborated on.

 

[Smilin]

Today at 05:53 PM NebraskaMan said this in Post #31

Where do you think the first multi-celled organism came from?

The first 'multi-celled' organism? I'll admit I'm not sure exactly WHAT was the FIRST multi-celled organism that existed or HOW it came into existence.

However, my ignorance on that particular question doesn't disprove Evolutionary Science...

 

[NebraskaMan]

I have reviewed his material... and we've discussed it quite in depth here on the forum...

I just simply said I was sorry you wasted your money on his videos when you could have examined his claims here for free.

I appreciate the offer, but I would rather judge for myself. I find it funny how within only a few moments of reading a paper (addressing any issue) you can see where the writer really stands on the issue, because his bias is being flaunted all over the page.

 

[NebraskaMan]

I'm guilty as well, I'm sure.

 

[Smilin]

Today at 06:18 PM NebraskaMan said this in Post #43

Maybe what I should have said is that the Bible refutes the theory of evolution, because the Bible does not refute the other scientific fields you have elaborated on.

Disagreed,

I argue that some Biblical Stories can ONLY be true if Evolutionary Science was involved...

Please feel free to browse my debate on this subject:

http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=529771#post529771


and comment as you see fit.

(I've been waiting to revive that thread)

 

[Freodin]

Today at 12:18 AM NebraskaMan said this in Post #43

To say this, requires that the Bible supports evidence to the contrary or against:

The DNA structure, Relativity, Gravity, Time, Space, the America's, Australia, Greenland, Iceland, Antarctica, structure of the univers (i.e. other Galaxies)

Maybe what I should have said is that the Bible refutes the theory of evolution, because the Bible does not refute the other scientific fields you have elaborated on.

You got it. And that now is the 1 million dollar question: does the Bible really refute the theory of evolution - or is this just a misinterpretation.

Again, there are passages in the Bible that "read plainly" refute the theory that the earth orbits the sun. Yet almost no-one still believes in geocentrism (there are a few).

Somehow it was possible to bring these two views in line - and there are lots of Christians who achieved the same for Genesis and Evolution.

If you think that they are all wrong, you have to show it.

 

[Pete Harcoff]

Today at 06:18 PM NebraskaMan said this in Post #43

Maybe what I should have said is that the Bible refutes the theory of evolution, because the Bible does not refute the other scientific fields you have elaborated on.

Where does the Bible refute the theory of evolution? If anything, the Bible needs the theory of evolution, at least with respect to Noah's Ark and the Flood.

edited to add: And, given some of the "designs" in nature (sadistic, jury-rigged, redundant, etc), the Bible is better off with evolution in that respect, too.

 

[Smilin]

Today at 06:20 PM NebraskaMan said this in Post #45



I appreciate the offer, but I would rather judge for myself. I find it funny how within only a few moments of reading a paper (addressing any issue) you can see where the writer really stands on the issue, because his bias is being flaunted all over the page.

Then we agree,
We're both intelligent beings that can examine evidence presented to us and make logical decisions.

BTW, you falsely assume I've only spent a few moments on this topic. I've spent MANY hours over the past year on this topic.

My mind can be changed. If you can scientifically disprove evolution, and explain the observations I've made with a better explanation.. I'm listening...

 

[Smilin]

Today at 06:27 PM Pete Harcoff said this in Post #49



Where does the Bible refute the theory of evolution? If anything, the Bible needs the theory of evolution, at least with respect to Noah's Ark and the Flood.

edited to add: And, given some of the "designs" in nature (sadistic, jury-rigged, redundant, etc), the Bible is better off with evolution in that respect, too.

SHHHHHHH!!! hey... that's MY thread...

 

[Smilin]

Today at 06:25 PM Freodin said this in Post #48
Somehow it was possible to bring these two views in line - and there are lots of Christians who achieved the same for Genesis and Evolution.

If you think that they are all wrong, you have to show it.

errr... don't give credit to ONLY Christians...

My Islamic Co-worker up the hall has brought Genesis and Evolution into line with each other as well...

 

[NebraskaMan]

As far as does the bible refute evolution, the bible is read to establish that the earth as around 6000 years old, let's at least agree on this point before moving on.

 

[NebraskaMan]

I suppose my last statement will open up a small can of worms between any creationist - old-earth and creationist - young-earth (like myself) theologians.

 

[Arikay]

Can you show us where in the bible it says the earth is about 6000 years old?

Today at 03:35 PM NebraskaMan said this in Post #53

As far as does the bible refute evolution, the bible is read to establish that the earth as around 6000 years old, let's at least agree on this point before moving on.

 

[Smilin]

Today at 06:35 PM NebraskaMan said this in Post #53

As far as does the bible refute evolution, the bible is read to establish that the earth as around 6000 years old, let's at least agree on this point before moving on.

lol... good luck on that one..

and for those of you who do agree...

PLEASE stop by my thread:

State your evidence for a 6,000 year old Earth and make a contribution...

(Many will agree with you, few {maybe even none} can show solid Scientific proof)

 

[Freodin]

Today at 12:35 AM NebraskaMan said this in Post #53

As far as does the bible refute evolution, the bible is read to establish that the earth as around 6000 years old, let's at least agree on this point before moving on.

Sorry, no agreeing on that. The Bible can be read to start Adam as around 6000 years ago, and that is not even regarding any discussion about when Adams "live" is definened to begin.

There are so many Old Earth Creation theories around - you won´t get even all Creationsism-believing Christians to agree on a 6000 year old earth.

edited to add:
BTW, this 6000 year old earth would only in passing refute Evolution theory, but it would refute directly a whole bunch of current geological theories.

 

[Pete Harcoff]

I, too, would like to see where in the Bible it says the world is only 6000 years old. Especially having queried young-Earth creationists on how old they think the world is and getting results differing by 100% or more.

 

[Smilin]

Today at 06:41 PM Arikay said this in Post #55

Can you show us where in the bible it says the earth is about 6000 years old?

Their are not dates in the Bible, and that figure is refuted by many who accept Genisis Chapter 5 as the entire history of mankind...

The key is... you have to show other scientific proof that Genisis Chapter 5 is a true geneology of the human race....

 

[NebraskaMan]

Arikay - We all know I am going to cite the genealogies
Smilin - Scientific proof will be routed to your thread, I promise! I did stop over and started reading through it, and hopefully I will be able to get around to posting later this week.