Why don't preppers ever use sprouting for carbs? No energy needed and can be eaten raw.

[Richard.20.12]

Most lentils/beans/peas/grains are ready in 1-2 days. Some in a few hours (quinoa). Just soak for a few hours/overnight then rinse a few times a day. They have automatic sprouters for people that are gone most of the day. Energy is always in short supply, fire causes smoke ruining air quality, fire can spread burning your place down, and on and on. Oh also the smoke from your fire tells everyone around you that you're there. All you need for sprouting is a plentiful supply of water. So make sure there is well water where you situate yourself. Streams/creeks/rivers are unreliable and sometimes flash flood wiping you out.

Another area I wonder about is why more preppers don't consider more healthy alternatives and more of a raw food diet. The stuff they buy is often so preserved, packed with chemicals and salt. I thought the point of this was to extend your life. Eating raw is so simple and efficient. Meat, fish, insects all are great protein and can be eaten raw. Insects are the best of course and are easily bred in controlled conditions if foraging isn't cutting it. High protein, low fat, high nutrients....what more could you want? And even more nutritious if eaten whole though that would make a lot of people gag. Solution: Skip a couple meals so that hunger REALLY kicks in!

 

[SavedByGrace3]

We are preppers and have a spouting system. We have used it a couple times just to see how it works and test the results. We liked it and will likely use it in the future, especially if the stuff hits the fan. Don't look for a lot of calories, but there is nutritional value in the sprouts. We need to stock up on more seeds or harvest our own. The spouts are great in a salad, and we have added them to Asian food.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

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Current events.
Anticipated events.
Biblical admonitions.
Common sense.
History.
Family responsibility.
Reading the signs of the times.
Short term needs.
Many "what if" scenarios.
SO...
Worrying about tomorrow is useless, you have to do something. If you see signs of trouble on the horizon, do something. If you see that the dam upstream is about to fail, don't just sit there, do something.

 

[bekkilyn]

Even just being able to avoid the mass-panic situation whenever a snowflake appears in the sky is worth it to me.

But the real question is why would anyone NOT prep for possible emergencies?

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Even just being able to avoid the mass-panic situation whenever a snowflake appears in the sky is worth it to me.

But the real question is why would anyone NOT prep for possible emergencies?

Double winner on that post bekki.
Where is the down side? I don't see any.
Look at the last 2 years in the grocery stores alone! Guess who was not running from store to store looking for food and t-paper?

 

[Richard.20.12]

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I think its good to take reasonable precautions. Anyone can have a few weeks of non-perishable foods around. Anything sproutable will be fresh anytime you want it. Its the ultimate prepper food. But to freeze enormous quantities of food for something that has never happened? Maybe most people don't understand fasting, have never done it, don't realize the body can go about 40 days before starvation usually starts. Now you must have water of course so having a means of disinfecting water is important but doesn't take much.

 

[Richard.20.12]

> We are preppers and have a spouting system. We have used it a couple times just to see how it works and test the results. We liked it and will likely use it in the future, especially if the stuff hits the fan.

Well you can sprout almost every grain, bean, lentil and pea. So that's quite an assortment of foods. But they each require a little different care. So experience helps. Just using sprouts every day is smart because nothing beats them for nutrients.

 

[Richard.20.12]

> Guess who was not running from store to store looking for food and t-paper?

Toilet paper? Use a bidet. Way better and no toilet paper needed. Combine defecation with showering. Use the toilet, have a shower. So easy. Leave the bathroom lighter and cleaner than going in. You have to pretty much to both each day. Makes sense to combine the two as most occur in the morning, first thing.

 

[bekkilyn]

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Toilet paper? Use a bidet. Way better and no toilet paper needed. Combine defecation with showering. Use the toilet, have a shower. So easy. Leave the bathroom lighter and cleaner than going in. You have to pretty much to both each day. Makes sense to combine the two as most occur in the morning, first thing.

I'd be taking over ten showers a day!

(But I largely agree with you about bidets. I do tend to find toilet paper to be more sanitary since no need to have old towels around for drying off and that will need to be washed, but even having some bidet bottles around makes it so that you never really have to worry about toilet paper running out.)

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Trust in Jesus....

Thats all the prep you need

I usually do not present this, but many people are led of the Lord to prep. I consider us "Antioch Preppers" after the Christians in Antioch who assisted the Judean Christians when a famine was spread around the world

Acts 11:27-30 KJV
27. And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch.
28. And there stood up one of them named Agabus, and signified by the Spirit that there should be great dearth throughout all the world: which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar.
29. Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethren which dwelt in Judaea:
30. Which also they did, and sent it to the elders by the hands of Barnabas and Saul.

And so, I ask believers, if there was a dearth in your town or state, what would you have available to send as relief? I have 400 pounds of rice and enough other preps to last two people for a couple years.
What I am saying is maybe God is telling some of us to do this. To put aside a store of goods, not for ourselves, but for those who are not putting up store, or they are not or are not listening to Him. Some of these are people who put their faith in their local supermarket and the government.
So I do ask my friends. Are you an Antioch Christian, or a Judean Christian?

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[bekkilyn]

I usually do not present this, but many people are led of the Lord to prep. I consider us "Antioch Preppers" after the Christians in Antioch who assisted the Judean Christians when a famine was spread around the world

Acts 11:27-30 KJV
27. And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch.
28. And there stood up one of them named Agabus, and signified by the Spirit that there should be great dearth throughout all the world: which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar.
29. Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethren which dwelt in Judaea:
30. Which also they did, and sent it to the elders by the hands of Barnabas and Saul.

And so, I ask believers, if there was a dearth in your town or state, what would you have available to send as relief? I have 400 pounds of rice and enough other preps to last two people for a couple years.
What I am saying is maybe God is telling some of us to do this. To put aside a store of goods, not for ourselves, but for those who are not putting up store, or they are not or are not listening to Him. Some of these are people who put their faith in their local supermarket and the government.
So I do ask my friends. Are you an Antioch Christian, or a Judean Christian?

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This prepper mindset is even something exemplified by Joseph in the Old Testament in preparing for the seven years of famine in Egypt and the surrounding areas.

 

[Richard.20.12]

Toilet paper? Use a bidet. Way better and no toilet paper needed. Combine defecation with showering. Use the toilet, have a shower. So easy. Leave the bathroom lighter and cleaner than going in. You have to pretty much to both each day. Makes sense to combine the two as most occur in the morning, first thing.

I'd be taking over ten showers a day!

(But I largely agree with you about bidets. I do tend to find toilet paper to be more sanitary since no need to have old towels around for drying off and that will need to be washed, but even having some bidet bottles around makes it so that you never really have to worry about toilet paper running out.)

If you don't want to use towels just get a large fan. You may need to heat the room fairly warm for the fan not to give you a chill though. A strong heater could do it in less than a minute if the bathroom was small.

 

[Richard.20.12]

You people are so right: Many examples of prepping in the Bible. So often God calls on us to prepare for the unexpected.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Seems ridiculous and silly to me. You seem to be living a life of fear and paranoia. I'll bet you anything you will never be in a situation to need to use it!

Exactly the opposite. You know where we were during the panicking crowds in 2020? We were sitting at home relaxing and looking for people to help. We were part of the solution and not part of the problem.
We have a saying. Everyone is a prepper, there are those who do it slowly and calmly while times are good, and there are those who wait till the day before the shortages hit. We call them panic preppers. They are the ones fighting over the last smashed tomato and roll of shredded toilet paper. They are the ones who are scared and worried about where their next meal will come from.
I have asked this question for many years, and the answer is almost the same in all instances.
What would you do to save your family from starvation and death?
The truthful answer honestly... they would do whatever it takes. Anything! Rob, steal, riot, break into people's homes. Even violence. Anything! Even Christians admit this.
I also suggest to people when they today decide if they are going to prep or not, they are actually deciding two things. If they decide that prepping is stupid and they are not going to do it, they are also deciding that they are going to rob, steal, and even commit violence in order to save their families from starvation. They may deny it. But don't answer now. Wait until your babies have extended bellies and your wife is screaming at you to do something! "If you loved us, you would do something!!" Answer then. The people down the street have a basement full of food. What are your going to do then?
Don't say it would never happen. Read your history. History is on the preppers side. History always tells the truth about human nature. History tells us that the people who are stubborn enough to not prepare for what is obviously coming, are also more than ready to take it from others when the time comes.
Also, not being afraid is not the same thing as being safe. Ask the millions of Christians who have died in every catastrophe and calamity that has ever hit this world. Ask our ancestors who lived through the depression and WW2. Ask the survivors of earthquakes, floods, and exploding volcanoes.
We are not afraid. You wanna see fear? Go outside your neighborhood supermarket when there is no food. Go by the nearest ATM when the bank will not give you your money. Wait till the Government declares martial law and they are coming for you! Then you will see some fear. We are moderately prepared for these things. Beyond that God will save us because like Noah, we believed and feared... and we are building an ark to save us and our loved ones. I do fear... for the ones whose faith is in the banks, the stores, and the government. I pray they wake up and realize what could happen, and what is already happening!

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Just tell me one! Just give me one instance where Jesus told people to be preppers! You don't have one, do you?

A case for prepping 1

After years of discussions and study, I concluded that most of those who oppose prepping do so from a faux spiritual/religious stance. Many think to prepare for physical and material hard times is unspiritual and carnal. A true believer, say they, will not worry about such materialistic concerns. They arrive at this conclusion by erroneous interpretations of a handful of scriptural passages and a false notion that to seek to survive in the natural somehow causes you to forfeit your standing in the spiritual. "Spiritual" people are not concerned with saving the physical lives of their families. We, of course, disagree with this thinking and will present scripture and logic to defeat it. We hold that it is both irresponsible and unscriptural to abandon the care and concern for your family and loved ones based on some false notion of spirituality and faith. Nowhere does the scripture tell us to neglect the needs of our families, whether present or future, in favor of some imaginary spiritual enlightenment. God is not asking us and our families to risk starvation so that we can gain spiritual points. To the contrary, the scriptures demand that we see to the needs of our family, and failure to do so equates us to an infidel.

1 Timothy 5:8 KJV
8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

We will show that this requirement does not end at midnight of the day, nor are we exempt from it because *hard times* are upon us. Jesus said that when we by experience and common sense know what is coming we should prepare.

Matthew 16:2-3 KJV
2 He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red.
3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

When we, by observation and a solid knowledge of history, can see what is coming, we should discern the signs and the times and common sense and reasonable action to protect our family and loved ones. What do we see coming in our immediate future? This should be obvious to all. Jesus was implying that if you saw bad weather coming, you should see it and beware. If the sky showed you bad weather coming would you prepare for a journey? If you were warned that floods were coming, would you take the kids for a hike in the woods? If it became evident that a huge blizzard was overdue, would you launch out with the family to the mountains for a camp-out? Certainly not. You would run to the store and made sure you had batteries, firewood, bottled water, and some games for the kids. You would do all those common sense preparations that anyone with a sound head would do. You would prepare to weather the storm. Nobody would count you faithless or unspiritual if you reacted in this way. You would be a good parent. If you refused to take these simple common sense preparations because it was "unspiritual"; many would count you as a religious nut, and rightly so.
The question I must ask is what is the difference between prepping for the weekend and prepping for a month, or a year? The difference is if you fail to prep for the weekend, you may be inconvenienced and uncomfortable. But if you fail to prep for a month or a year, you and your family may die. There is a serious dichotomy in the thinking that says we should prepare lest we be uncomfortable, but refuse to prepare to when our lives and the lives of our families are forfeit.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Just tell me one! Just give me one instance where Jesus told people to be preppers! You don't have one, do you?

A case for prepping 3

Christian Preppers and The Dearth

Acts 11:27-30 KJV
27 And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch.
28 And there stood up one of them named Agabus, and signified by the Spirit that there should be great dearth throughout all the world: which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar.
29 Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethren which dwelt in Judaea:
30 Which also they did, and sent it to the elders by the hands of Barnabas and Saul.

What would you have to give your neighbor if a *dearth* occurred today? Would you be on the giving side or the receiving side? If you are not prepping, you not only have nothing to give, but you will be depending on the charity of others to survive. You will be standing in the relief line. Please note that the dearth was *throughout all the world.* Christian areas were not exempt. There were no miraculous interventions to save them. No food out of the sky. Christians who were not prepared did not have food fall down upon them from heaven. Yet the Christians in Antioch had more than enough to spare. Regardless of how or why, the Antioch believers were prepared for such an event. They had so much that they were able to relieve those who did not prepare. If a dearth occurred today, what would you have to give if the prophets called for all to give according to their ability? I have a half ton of rice. Do you? I am prepared not only to care for my family, but to help the needy. What will your ability be when the prophets call? I exhort you to be like the Antioch believers and prepare today. Especially in uncertain times such as we live.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Just tell me one! Just give me one instance where Jesus told people to be preppers! You don't have one, do you?

A case for prepping 4

Joseph, the King of Preppers

Genesis 6:21 KJV
21 And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them.

We all know the story of Joseph and his brothers. Joseph was sold into Egypt by his brothers where he eventually became the Pharaohs right hand man. By his council 7 years worth of preps were put back to cover the coming 7 years of famine. Not only did he save the entire land of Egypt from starvation, he saved his family who later came to Egypt to by food from these stores.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Just tell me one! Just give me one instance where Jesus told people to be preppers! You don't have one, do you?

A case for prepping 5

Ants Prep Lazybones!

Proverbs 6:6;11 (NLT)
6. Take a lesson from the ants, you lazybones. Learn from their ways and become wise!
7. Though they have no prince or governor or ruler to make them work,
8. they labor hard all summer, gathering food for the winter.
9. But you, lazybones, how long will you sleep? When will you wake up?
10. A little extra sleep, a little more slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest;
11. then poverty will pounce on you like a bandit; scarcity will attack you like an armed robber.

Ants store up tremendous amounts of food in their underground homes. Some ants do nothing else but harvest seeds and nectar and put away these food sources for future use. It is not a matter of faith or no faith. It is a matter of the facts of life. If you want to survive, you prepare for tomorrow.

* Ants harvest food for the entire summer season. When winter comes, they spend months underground living solely on the food they prepped during the winter. They are master preppers.
* Bears and other mammals store up huge resources of fat during the summer in anticipation of the coming winter hibernation. God created the bodies of these creatures to be prepping machines. These creatures do so instinctively without prompting. Nobody is arguing with them whether or not they should consume large quantities of food as winter approaches. It would be silly to suggest to them that they are *without faith* when they do what nature tells them to do. Are we any less creatures on this earth? Are we any less subject to times of famine and calamity? Should we just sit back and do nothing as the dam above the town begins to break? Some would say yes. It is simply wrong-headed and dangerous to assume this attitude. Be as intelligent as the old bear. Get ready for what is coming.
* Bees work endlessly storing honey in their hives. They create so much honey that humans are able to harvest the majority of their honey stores and not endanger the survival of the hive.

This is the world God created. This is the natural and normal times and seasons of His world. It is simply a fact of life that we prepare for the lean times we see coming. It is wrong headed and silly to oppose the common sense prepping we are suggesting. Nature supports the concept. Logic supports the concept. Most importantly, God and His Word support the concept.
Preparing for uncertain times is the natural and normal thing to do. We do this not out of doubt fueled by fear, rather we do this in the fear that results from God's warnings.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Just tell me one! Just give me one instance where Jesus told people to be preppers! You don't have one, do you?

case for prepping 6

Wise or Stupid? Check your oil stocks and find out.

Proverbs 21:20 CLV
20 Coveted treasure and oil are in the homestead of the wise man, Yet the stupid man swallows it all up.

Do you have oil and treasure stored up in your homestead? The word treasure here also carries the idea of a “cellar” or “depository.” That is what preppers have. Wise men have root cellars and food depositories. Do you have a root cellar or a depository? Do you have stuff stored away or do you eat it all up? No need to dwell long here. I think it puts a nail in the coffin of any argument against prepping. God says you are stupid if you do not prep. I would certainly not like to be on the wrong side of that estimation!

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Just tell me one! Just give me one instance where Jesus told people to be preppers! You don't have one, do you?

A case for prepping 7

"Why do you worry?"

Many Christians who oppose prepping use Jesus' words in Matthew 6 to justify that opposition.

Matthew 6:24-34 ISV
24 "No one can serve two masters, because either he will hate one and love the other, or be loyal to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and riches!"
25 "That's why I'm telling you to stop worrying about your life--what you will eat or what you will drink--or about your body--what you will wear. Life is more than food, isn't it, and the body more than clothing?
26 Look at the birds in the sky. They don't plant or harvest or gather food into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. You are more valuable than they are, aren't you?
27 Can any of you add a single hour to the length of your life by worrying?
28 And why do you worry about clothes? Consider the lilies in the field and how they grow. They don't work or spin yarn,
29 but I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was clothed like one of them.
30 Now if that is the way God clothes the grass in the field, which is alive today and thrown into an oven tomorrow, won't he clothe you much better--you who have little faith?
31 "So don't ever worry by saying, 'What are we going to eat?' or 'What are we going to drink?' or 'What are we going to wear?'
32 because it is the gentiles who are eager for all those things. Surely your heavenly Father knows that you need all of them!
33 But first be concerned about God's kingdom and his righteousness, and all of these things will be provided for you as well.
34 So never worry about tomorrow, because tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."

They take these words to mean we should not prepare for the future in any way. They claim to be concerned about the future is worrying and therefore unbelief. We will show the error of their interpretation. Not only will we show the error, but we will show that even they do not believe that Jesus is telling us to not prepare for events that we see and know are coming.

Look at what He said:

That's why I'm telling you to stop worrying about your life;

* He did not say "do not prepare for your life"
* He said "do not worry about your life"
* Do not think that worrying by itself is going to accomplish anything.
* Worrying by itself is not going to put food on the table.
* Worrying by itself is not going to put shoes on the kid's feet.
* Worrying by itself is not going to make you grow an inch.

He is not saying "do not attend to these things," He is saying "do not think worrying by itself is going to accomplish anything." You can sit by the window doing nothing, wringing your hands all day, worrying and fretting. But this will not help you at all. Faith in your Father is what is what we need. And sometimes faith means acting on what you know is coming. If you believe hard times are coming, acting on what you believe is what is going to save you. Inaction does nothing to help. He is not saying, *do not prepare for tomorrow.* He is saying do not just sit there and worry! Act! Whether that action is faith or common sense preparations. The message is that worrying is useless. The fact that you work, have food in your pantry, have insurance, have retirement plans, and constantly plan for tomorrow proves that you do not even believe Jesus is saying "do not plan for tomorrow."