Why does the earth rotate?

[Kylie]

I can see that time itself may have been affected at the time Jesus died. That is a little hard to get the head around, I know. But it would explain why they can't seem to pinpoint the eclipse, and the exact times for the life of Christ.

We can pinpoint eclipses very accurately. I have a program on my computer that can do it. It's called Stellarium. Download it (it's free), then punch in the time and date and location, and see what happens.

It seems to make sense that the central point of time on earth...the death of Christ for our sins...that time was affected. Even the calendar starts there.

The calendar starts at the point Christ died for our sins?

Naughty boy.

Go and sit in the corner and think about what you said.

 

[dad]

Meanwhile, you preach nothing.

I preach that Jesus created the universe. Do you agree?

 

[dad]

Nothing but assertion; no logic, no evidence, mere assertion.

For believers, it is not nothing that Jesus died and rose again, and that He confirmed all that Moses was and said. All the thing you are against apparently?

 

[dad]

So that's a no, you don't know how science works.

Yep, I sure do, I know the basis of the claims that you avoid even dealing with, and instead make some flussfy pretense of knowing something.

How can there be hydrogen if the laws are different?

Easy. How could there be hydrogen in New Jerusalem? How could Jesus eat and drink after He arose from the dead and had an eternal spiritual body? The mere presence of an element does not mean that that element existed in a spiritual city or body, or even deep space in the way it would here. Remember that the hydrogen from space is ONLY seen here.

If the bond is different, why doesn't it look different?

I am not sure that the data in light HERE can tell us about the bond there.

Or does the transition between the different-law part of the universe and the same-law part of the universe magically change the way things look?

Things can ONLY look and exist a certain way in this time and space. The magic is claiming that this way here is that way there.

Again, if it is different, why doesn't it look different?

It is NOT different in THIS time and space. The question is why would light and what data it can contain HERE be any different here? So many assumptions on your part. Such a shame that you have nothing from reality to back you up. Evidence please.

Evidence from reality, that is. Quoting passages from an old book isn't going to cut it.

Your wish that reality exclude Christ is dead in the water.

The rate is irrelevant. That fact we can see it changing proves time exists there.

Not at all. Things change in heaven too. Things changed in the former state here on earth. Things change in deep space. That does not mean that our fishbowl perceptions and limits apply there. You have never been able to show that science is right about things beyond it's little puddle of knowledge and range.


That's what I'm talkin bout.

 

[dad]

We can pinpoint eclipses very accurately. I have a program on my computer that can do it. It's called Stellarium. Download it (it's free), then punch in the time and date and location, and see what happens.

Better still punch in any date before Christ, and then show the collaborative evidence. Prove that an eclipse was a certain specific hour and day.

The calendar starts at the point Christ died for our sins?

Well, it is set to His birth...His coming.

Go and sit in the corner and think about what you said.

That sounds a bit like juvie drunken silliness.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

For believers, it is not nothing that Jesus died and rose again, and that He confirmed all that Moses was and said. All the thing you are against apparently?

There you go again, making stuff up again, this time about what I believe.

 

[dad]

There you go again, making stuff up again, this time about what I believe.

There was a question mark.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I preach that Jesus created the universe. Do you agree?

Is that what you preach? Funny, I've never heard you say it... not once, in all your anti-science screeds.

 

[dad]

Is that what you preach? Funny, I've never heard you say it... not once, in all your anti-science screeds.

Jesus did create the universe.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Jesus did create the universe. Now you say it.

I could say an army of sentient garden gnomes created the universe. Why do you care so much over what is said instead of what is done?

 

[freezerman2000]

Enough with the insults and snarkiness!!!!!

 

[dad]

I could say an army of sentient garden gnomes created the universe. Why do you care so much over what is said instead of what is done?

Ah never mind, I mistook you for one of the many 'believers' that do not believe Jesus created things.

 

[Kylie]

Yep, I sure do, I know the basis of the claims that you avoid even dealing with, and instead make some flussfy pretense of knowing something.

No, you do not know how science works. You have demonstrated that countless times.

Easy. How could there be hydrogen in New Jerusalem? How could Jesus eat and drink after He arose from the dead and had an eternal spiritual body? The mere presence of an element does not mean that that element existed in a spiritual city or body, or even deep space in the way it would here. Remember that the hydrogen from space is ONLY seen here.

So you don't know.

I am not sure that the data in light HERE can tell us about the bond there.
Things can ONLY look and exist a certain way in this time and space. The magic is claiming that this way here is that way there.

This does not answer the question. What good is it to propose an alternative viewpoint if you can't show how that alternative viewpoint explains what we see?

It is NOT different in THIS time and space. The question is why would light and what data it can contain HERE be any different here? So many assumptions on your part. Such a shame that you have nothing from reality to back you up. Evidence please.

But it IS different at the source, according to you. So why doesn't it look different?

Your wish that reality exclude Christ is dead in the water.

So you can't answer the question. You have nothing to show that spirits are real.

Not at all. Things change in heaven too. Things changed in the former state here on earth. Things change in deep space. That does not mean that our fishbowl perceptions and limits apply there. You have never been able to show that science is right about things beyond it's little puddle of knowledge and range.

You have never been able to show that your ideas are of any merit whatsoever.

 

[Kylie]

Better still punch in any date before Christ, and then show the collaborative evidence. Prove that an eclipse was a certain specific hour and day.

No. You do some actual work for a change. Support your own ideas instead of getting others to disprove it.

Well, it is set to His birth...His coming.

But that's not what you said.

That sounds a bit like juvie drunken silliness.

Oh, is an ad hominem the best you've got?

 

[dad]

No, you do not know how science works. You have demonstrated that countless times.

No offense but we do need to add science to the list of words you should not even be allowed to use. You would need to first demonstrate some familiarity with the term and concept.

This does not answer the question. What good is it to propose an alternative viewpoint if you can't show how that alternative viewpoint explains what we see?

No need to explain how Jesus created everything. That is a bogus concept. What is needed here is to demonstrate that those who have blasphemed Jesus and ridiculed Scripture, and badmouthed believers in the name of science, have been pulling a fast one.

But it IS different at the source, according to you. So why doesn't it look different?

To answer that you would need to know precisely how it was different. That could include knowing what time is and what space would be like without time as we think of it! It would also require some knowledge of the spiritual, and the effects it has on the physical. Science is stuck in a little fishbowl of earth and area and worse yet, only in the present state on earth and area! They could not BEGIN to comprehend the true mysteries of God the spiritual and creation.

You have nothing to show that spirits are real.

Actually I have personal experience, all of history, and most men living on earth as we speak who agree. Doubts are worthless.

 

[dad]

No. You do some actual work for a change. Support your own ideas instead of getting others to disprove it.

I need not disprove anything that is not proven. Now I could be wrong on this point. Perhaps there is real solid evidence for a precise hour and day of some eclipse long before Christ came to earth. Until someone produces it though, you are groping in the dark.

Oh, is an ad hominem the best you've got?

I don't want to get into silliness with a married lady...sorry.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Just accept the cause of the earth's rotation please so science can advance and get rid of those Fairie Dust perpetual motion machines spinning against friction in the center of the earth for 4+ billion years.

http://www.livescience.com/39780-magnetic-field-pushes-earth-core.html

 

[Justatruthseeker]

What good is it to propose an alternative viewpoint if you can't show how that alternative viewpoint explains what we see?

What good is to propose an alternate viewpoint that explains what we see without Fairie Dust if you won't accept the scientific data as we know it from over 200+ years of experimentation with plasma in a universe 99% plasma?

http://www.plasma-universe.com/Galaxy_formation

So in a universe 99% plasma you still choose to ignore theories by Plasma Physicists that explain it better than any existing theory. Even when they refuse to treat plasma in existing cosmology like any scientist in any plasma laboratory treats it???

http://plazmauniverzum.hu/sites/plazmauniverzum.hu/files/Peratt86TPS-I.pdf

http://www.plasmauniverse.info/downloadsCosmo/Peratt86TPS-II.pdf

All the while ignoring those forces even when it explains the earth's rotation as well.

http://www.livescience.com/39780-magnetic-field-pushes-earth-core.html

I'm asking myself the very same thing? What good is to propose an alternate viewpoint that explains what we see without Fairie Dust if you won't accept the scientific data as we know it from over 200+ years of experimentation with plasma in a universe 99% plasma?

You wont even accept a scientific theory that works better than yours and requires no ad-hoc assumptions. Just the forces we see all around us everywhere. So how does one remove those View-Masters and get you to see???

 

[dad]

Just accept the cause of the earth's rotation please so science can advance and get rid of those Fairie Dust perpetual motion machines spinning against friction in the center of the earth for 4+ billion years.

http://www.livescience.com/39780-magnetic-field-pushes-earth-core.html

Hilarious.

Here are a few fibs from your link, or at least claims you will not be proving as any sort of fact here.


"liquid outer core— composed of a molten mix of iron and nickel ---


The Earth's magnetic field — created by the convection of hot liquid metal within the outer core "

Your claim of 4 billion years is also nonsense. You mistake is the usual one, trusting science knew about creation. No. No. No.

 

[Kylie]

No offense but we do need to add science to the list of words you should not even be allowed to use. You would need to first demonstrate some familiarity with the term and concept.

lol

No need to explain how Jesus created everything. That is a bogus concept. What is needed here is to demonstrate that those who have blasphemed Jesus and ridiculed Scripture, and badmouthed believers in the name of science, have been pulling a fast one.

So not only are you completely incapable of explaining anything with your viewpoint, you seem to think that you should not be required to.

To answer that you would need to know precisely how it was different. That could include knowing what time is and what space would be like without time as we think of it! It would also require some knowledge of the spiritual, and the effects it has on the physical. Science is stuck in a little fishbowl of earth and area and worse yet, only in the present state on earth and area! They could not BEGIN to comprehend the true mysteries of God the spiritual and creation.

You're the one claiming it is different. Why don't you explain to us how it was different.

Actually I have personal experience, all of history, and most men living on earth as we speak who agree. Doubts are worthless.

Personal experience is meaningless. Anecdotal evidence, that's all. Completely meaningless.