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Why does life look as if it evolved?

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Modern life looks as if it has a common ancestor. Some people nevertheless believe that modern life were created as is ex nihilo ~10000 years ago (you know who you are ¬ ¬ ).

My question is to them: why does life look like it evolved from a common ancestor?
 
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Modern life looks as if it has a common ancestor. Some people nevertheless believe that modern life were created as is ex nihilo ~10000 years ago (you know who you are ¬ ¬ ).

My question is to them: why does life look like it evolved from a common ancestor?
because one of god's hobbies is to play tricks his creation
 
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Modern life looks as if it has a common ancestor. Some people nevertheless believe that modern life were created as is ex nihilo ~10000 years ago (you know who you are ¬ ¬ ).

My question is to them: why does life look like it evolved from a common ancestor?
Just about everything I have ever designed shows 'evolving'
Electronic circuits: telephone, TV, VCR, watches, etc.
Houses, cars, Vacuums, airplanes, and on and on.
They all evolve into more advanced designs.
 
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Just about everything I have ever designed shows 'evolving'
Electronic circuits: telephone, TV, VCR, watches, etc.
Houses, cars, Vacuums, airplanes, and on and on.
They all evolve into more advanced designs.
The fundamental difference is that an advancement in, say, computer technology can be made use of in building airplanes. Life follows a strict nested hierarchy, and as such you don't get an adaptation in one species being copied to another (at least, not for large, multicellular organisms such as ourselves). A designer would have no problem violating such a nested hierarchy, and could, for example, place bird's wings on a bat, or give ostriches arms. But evolution can't do this.

Remember, it's not that life changes that makes it look evolved. It's how life changes, and has changed. That there is no violation of this nested hierarchy makes it look very much like life evolved.
 
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Just about everything I have ever designed shows 'evolving'
Electronic circuits: telephone, TV, VCR, watches, etc.
Houses, cars, Vacuums, airplanes, and on and on.
They all evolve into more advanced designs.

If a Vacuum Cleaner could reproduce itself And improve on it's own design, then it would "evolve."

But, as such, Vacuum Cleaners, Cars, TVs, or Airplanes have no Mechanism in which to do so. Their "Evolution" depends on us to built copies of them.

We, on the otherhand, do not depend on any "Designer" to copy and improve on our design. We can do it ourselves.

But, on a side note, Even If we ever do design a Vacuum Cleaner to be able to reproduce itself And improve on it's own design, it would not change the fact that the Original Device was human built but it would force us to re-evalute our understanding of Creation.
 
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^_^ The picture is a link. (CTRL+)Click it. Fools.

I think that I like this one better. ;)

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The fundamental difference is that an advancement in, say, computer technology can be made use of in building airplanes. Life follows a strict nested hierarchy, and as such you don't get an adaptation in one species being copied to another (at least, not for large, multicellular organisms such as ourselves). A designer would have no problem violating such a nested hierarchy, and could, for example, place bird's wings on a bat, or give ostriches arms. But evolution can't do this.

Remember, it's not that life changes that makes it look evolved. It's how life changes, and has changed. That there is no violation of this nested hierarchy makes it look very much like life evolved.

I'm only pointing out other things look like they evolved.
 
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Just about everything I have ever designed shows 'evolving'
Electronic circuits: telephone, TV, VCR, watches, etc.
Houses, cars, Vacuums, airplanes, and on and on.
They all evolve into more advanced designs.

...

I'm only pointing out other things look like they evolved.
Except that you aren't: you are equivocating to get your point across. You say that the things you designed* evolved into their present form. That may be true, for given definitions of 'evolved', but suffice to say this is not what anyone means when there refer to biological evolution (namely, the change in the frequency of inheretable traits over time in a population).

Indeed, the following video shows how even timepieces can evolve:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcAq9bmCeR0


*I have my doubts that you single-handedly designed the entirety of modern electronics.
 
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Modern life looks as if it has a common ancestor. Some people nevertheless believe that modern life were created as is ex nihilo ~10000 years ago (you know who you are ¬ ¬ ).

My question is to them: why does life look like it evolved from a common ancestor?
have any examples? Humans look and act nothing like any other animal in the world.

and why is it that evolutionists believe in common ancestors -- millions of them -- when not even one can be found?
 
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have any examples? Humans look and act nothing like any other animal in the world.

Dude, you aren't even trying any more.

1) hairy nuckles
2) finger and toe nails
3) belly buttons
4) mammaries
5) DNA based (with up to 95% similarity)

and the list goes on and on.

You can't even accurately describe reality anymore.

Name 10 physical differences between a chimp and a human.
Name 10 emotional differences between a chimp and a human.

Come on, got any examples?

Your comments really demonstrate a detachment from actually knowing anything about biology and the facts as we know them.

You arguments depend on ignorance.

You are a great creationist.
 
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That may be the single craziest claim I have ever seen my life. EVER. I can't even put into words how wrong that is. So, I'll have my good pal Dr. Cox explain it to you.

As sad as it is, I have seen crazier. But I also hang out at FSTDT.
 
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