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I missed this part of your post when I replied earlier where I need to say that I totally reject the non-Biblical notion that Mary is supposed to by my (or anyone elses) mother; she is no more important than any othe Believing woman who is found in the New Testament.
do you ever refer to Abraham as "Father Abraham"?
If I'm a bride of Christ, then my father is the Father. My mother is Mary.
If I'm a brother of Christ, then my father is the Father. My mother is Mary.
If I'm born again, then my mother becomes Mary, and My father is the Father (wow thats a good one for various reasons).
If I'm a bride of Christ, then my father is the Father. My mother is Mary.
If I'm a brother of Christ, then my father is the Father. My mother is Mary.
If I'm born again, then my mother becomes Mary,
...only if you're determined that Christ was wrong when speaking to Nicodemus who similarly thought that being born again had to refer to another passage through the birth canal rather than a spiritual transformation.
Well then.. What do you make of this scripture...
47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. - Matthew 12
If I'm a bride of Christ, then my father is the Father. My mother is Mary.
-snip-
Not really.
Gal. 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
IOW, you're born again, which is different from Mary giving birth to Christ.
Reference to my posts ( now removed) should easily demonstrate that there was an absence of "ranting". Engaging in a dialogue about the matter, and in relation to the impression iterated by the op, is part of how we discover more fully the views of others and engage in further investigation of our own. Is not discussion between 'all sorts' of Christians on a wide variety of issues part of the purpose of CF ? I find it concerning that dialogue on potential structural expressions of the matter at hand ("the medium is the message") are disallowed when indeed they are related to the concern of the op.
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If anyone has issues with this thread being moved to this forum, kindly start a thread in the Member Services Center instead of ranting about it here. Several posts have been cleaned up/deleted.
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And, just in case people don't realize what the Mariology forum is for:
The Mariology and Hagiography forum is for discussing and debating the various theological doctrines concerning Mary and the Saints.
Further disruptive posts will result in the thread being closed...and it won't because of anyone's feelings on Mary.
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Yet He was fully God since eternity past. Therefore He pre-exists Mary, therefore she cannot be His actual mother.
About all the Mariology doctrines, why don't we read about any of them in the NT as written by His chosen apostles??
All of them are added later.
We have warnings from the Lord's chosen apostles about those who will come after them who are going to teach false doctrines to the church.
I don't know, do you even know what the Gnostic gospels say about Mary?
Infacy Gospel
Yet He was fully God since eternity past. Therefore He pre-exists Mary, therefore she cannot be His actual mother.
Instead, He created His mother. In the "east" at least, we understand that there are two "categories" - created and Uncreated. As I noted before, this is amply present in our hymnography and teaching ... that Mary is a creature and Jesus Christ is the pre-eternal Logos incarnate. So yes, even my children at a young age recognized this paradox of the Incarnation. If you'd like, I can re-post a hymn on the matter that makes this clear.
Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ, for Mary conceived and carried in her womb the Godman.
So what are you saying, Mary is not the mother of Jesus?
Did Jesus just appear on Earth?
Are you being random?
I don't know, do you even know what the Gnostic gospels say about Mary?
Infacy Gospel
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