Why do you reject Islam?

[IndyEllis]

What's your reason?

 

[0x87a]

ahha. i never do that!

 

[IndyEllis]

Just that I figure that in order to be a Christian, it's necessary to reject Islam, no?

 

[ebia]

Are you asking me as an individual to answer from personal history? My primary answer would have to be that I know Christianity to be true from experience and therefore I have to reject those aspects of Islam that are incompatible with that.

I have to say that objectively I would take some persuading that the Koran is dictated by God as it is supposed to be. If it claimed to be an inspired book it might wash, but it simply doesn't look eternal or divinely dictated to me.

The bible implicitly admits to being part of a messy process of delivering divine revelation through a fallen and fallible people.

The Koran claims to be a straightforward divine dictation of an eternal book, yet it looks (if anything) considerably more messy than the bible:
Passages delivered later to Mohamed superceed ones delivered earlier.
Significant portions are tied heavily to Mohammed's time and space, which seems unlikely in an eternal book.
The idea that an eternal book would be written in a particular human langauge seems highly unlikely to me.
It shows very significant misunderstandings on the part of it's author (eg about Christianity). This is reasonable in a book where God is speaking through a fallible human author, but seems most unlikely in a book where God is speaking directly.
and so on.
The whole thing relies on one persons word about - Mohammed's. There are no witnesses to the prophetic revelation. Mohammed could have made the whole thing up. Christainity had lots of eye witnesses willing to testify to the Risen Christ - the key point on which Christianity hangs. It would require considerable co-operation for that to be invented.

 

[BigNorsk]

It gets back to Jesus. Islam teaches he is the second greatest prophet, but just a man, not God. That is quite inconsistent with the evidence. Either Jesus is indeed God, or he is not a good person, but rather and very evil person who stood in God's place. Where is there any evidence Jesus is just a good man?

The other thing you see is that in the Quran, God keeps changing. For instance concerning Christians, the Quran is quite complimentary of them when Mohammed was weak and then turns to kill them if they don't convert when Mohammed became strong.

That's one example.

Another would be that if you read carefully, you can see the Christians Mohammed was talking about were heretics. The Trinity would appear to be in Mohammeds understanding the Father, the Son, and the Mother, Mary. While the Quran is quite condemning of the Trinity, when it mentions the Holy Spirit it does not mention the Trinity. If the revelation was from God, at least God would have understood Christianity.

Lastly if you examine it, you find that Islam is a religion of law, of trying to be good enough or do something to warrant salvation. A lot of people really love the legalism and doing all sorts of works. But ultimately the law offers no release from our sins, no assurance. Christianity has the gospel, it is lacking in Islam.

Marv

 

[sinner/SAVED]

I don't reject anyone's belief. I just realize that they are among the multitudes who have yet to experience or acknowledge Grace.

 

[Sketcher]

Because I'm a Christian. Not only is Islam a false religion, but it's a false religion without the guarantee of forgiveness and eternal life that Christianity gives to believers. The closest they have to a guarantee is if you die in Jihad, which accounts for much if not all of the violence in the Muslim world. Furthermore, Islam is a false religion where the Muslim is supposed to be part of God's brute squad. I am grateful that God doesn't want believers to kill people for disobedience to Him - the mission of the church according to the New Testament is to convert, not to kill. If God needs anyone dead, He is capable of doing it Himself or sending one of His countless angels to do it.

 

[salida]

Indy - because its a violent and hate religion - therefore very antichristian.

 

[dvd_holc]

Islam does not understand Jesus Christ. Many of them will agree to things said by Jesus...but have no understanding of God's plan for redemption in Christ, fulfillment of the covenants with renewal of the blood covenant in Christ, and purpose of God's people because of God's accomplishments. They lack historical awareness and twist and turn the word of God. Jesus is the Prophet to whom Islam should follow...

 

[IndyEllis]

These are interesting responses.

I want to hear more.

 

[calidog]

What's your reason?

Because Jesus is the only way to God.

 

[dvd_holc]

These are interesting responses.

I want to hear more.

Ok, here is bit…(I can give you the scripture references if you want me to…but I have not for easy of conversation).

Jumping past creation and the fall of humanity…which I hope you have some knowledge of…I will talk about the redemption of creation in the blood covenant and establishment of the covenantal people.

First, covenants are not mentioned a lot in our contemporary world. Marriage is a type of covenant close to the (main) one used in our relationship with God, but the blood covenants specifically that was used has not been used in modern world. Now, blood covenants have been used within recent centuries. For instance, a European explorer traveled through nearly all of Africa and made around 50 blood covenants with the tribes of Africans to establish peace and relationship with them. Likewise, any tribe that did not want to make a blood covenant with him and wanted to do him harm would have had those 50 tribes contend with or more to the point would have to deal with their wrath. This is similar to what God did in His covenant with us.

In our sin, we no longer had a proper relationship with God, each other, and the rest of the world. God choose to redeem us by establishing a blood covenant with us thus establishing proper relationship. Now, one does enter into a blood covenant very lightly. It is the most serious of commitments in life because the failure to keep it would result in the death of the offender. In those aforementioned African tribes, their blood covenant was closer than marriage and brother/sister relationship. Also, it is an equal part of the two parties to remain in peaceful and protective relationship. Now, as we briefly looking at the weakness and frailty of humans as a created being and the vastness of God the Creator, it easy to see there is a miss match in ability and so on…The proper relationship of humans with God could never be achieved through human ability to keep all the terms of covenant. Nonetheless, God made a covenant with humanity by putting His own life at risk for us.

This blood covenant was not completely revealed to Adam, Eve, and those who followed until Abraham and those afterward. Now, Adam and Eve first say a picture of the substitution in the covenant in the sacrifice after their fall…but a lot of things remained unknown to them. The first sacrifice for the first humans and so on through the sacrificial system and the furniture in the Temple of God, each of these was a picture of the covering and taking away of sins which God promised to fulfill by taking responsibility and the penalty upon Himself in the blood covenant.

Now, the covenants were not meant just to be a blank check for the forgiveness of sins, but rather the covenants were meant to be implemented through those who cling to the blood covenant thus becoming a covenant people. To say it very simple, because of the promise that God would fulfill the blood oath, people anticipated this by giving all there effort to implement the terms of the covenant. Thus, God established Adam and Eve’s community, then Noah, and also Abraham’s…But each became disobedient, thus causing an exile. However, at end of each exile was a forgiveness of sins and new development toward reconciliation.

As it was in the first century, even though a great many Hebrews had returned to the Land of Israel and lived lives for God, they were still living in a state of exile. I will briefly summarizing the problem in: 1) the Romans were still ruling the world in particular the Land 2) the Jewish authorities were corrupt puppets of Roman and 3) the Glory of God which resided in Temple and lead the people through their journey out of exile. Thus, God had not achieved what He had promised to Moses and the prophets that He would renew His covenant and forgive sins.

Jesus Christ is the one who renewed the covenant or to say it another way…Jesus fulfilled the blood covenant by dieing for all our sin on the cross so that we all might have peace with God. Further, we now live in the new covenant which not like the old because it anticipated His death and we live with His once for all and unrepeatable achievement. Because of His achievement, we clinging to His covenant and gain a new relationship with God that is more intimate than before and live under the new terms of the covenant. Jesus then established us as the covenant people and Jesus is the King of the whole creation because the covenant was for every nation and the rest of creation. So then as before, we who are the covenant people go out calling the world to acceptance of the covenant for the proper relationship that God made available. God has given a reasonable amount of freedom and mercy that the rest of humanity might cling to His covenant in Christ. We can't fall away from this covenant or be in exile because the achievement of the blood sacrifice was once and for all. So then, our sins are covered and taken away in Christ and we live in a present covenantal community (kingdom).

 

[Key]

I would have to say...

In the end... because... I did not find in Islam what I found in Christ.

Hope that Helps you.

God Bless

Key

 

[tytyty9]

This may sound very stupid but Everybody nos that jesus did miracles. So did his disciples, who taught that he was the Son of God and the lamb, who cleansed the world of its sins by giving up his life. Muhammed did no miracles. He just killed anyone who didnt agree with him. Unexplainable things happening are God's evidence of ministry. Nothing unexplainable has ever happened in any other religion but christianity. Who has ever heard of God becoming human? There is so much evidence, too much. Miracles still happen today, not in the name of allah, but in the name of Jesus Christ

 

[Rafael]

What's your reason?

Because it is false and not of the truth of God. It is a plaguerism of the Bible nad early Christian writings, along with Jewish folklore. Muhammed even admitted,himself, that he did not know if it was devils (jinns) or God that gave him his "visions" that were later collected and written down by clerics who still modify the contents like the "satanic verses" in the Koran that caused Salmon Rushdie to have his life threatened
A small book can be read onlne by a former Muslim whose true name is withheld that gives some good insight to just what Islam is and how it came about 600 years or so after the death of Christ :

http://www.ellisskolfield.com/pdf/IslamReviewed.pdf

 

[TheReasoner]

What's your reason?

My main reason is Muhammad. Second reason is the Qua'ran.

His history. His actions. What the Qua-ran commands they do to 'infidels'

 

[tytyty9]

Well everyone here nos that islam is a lie. Jesus is the only way to heaven =)

 

[cubanito]

I started reading an English translation of the Koran while yet an agnostic. When I got to the surah that said "beat your wife on ocassion even if she has done nothing wrong, just to remind her who is in charge." I put the book down and moved on to the next.

As a Christian, my objections to Islam are so many I don't want to start even listing them, but I will highlight one, since I am a card-carrying Fundamentalist.

Islam, like Christianity, comes in various flavors. Unlike Christianity, which stood mostly unified for 1000 years before splintering, Islam began a full civil war of succession almost immediately upon Muhammad's death. One of the results of this is that Mohamedans do not actually look primarily to the Koran for their guidance, despite the rhetoric. Of greater importance in actual practice is their "hadith" (traditions) which are a series of commentaries upon the Koran. It is analogous to the Jewish Talmud and Mishna (sp?), where what is supposed to be a commentary upon Scripture in practice supplants the actual plain sense of the text.

Thus, wether they be Sunni, Shi'ite, Sufi or whatever, I consider none of them fundamentalists. They all add different traditions, and in practice supplant the actual Koran.

JR

 

[Criada]

As with many religions I studied - I couldn't do it!
Why would God ask the impossible of people - He made us, He knows us, He knows that we can't be perfect.
Or even very good a lot of the time!
Only Jesus gives us His righteousness, rather than expecting us to be righteous on our own.
And I need that!

 

[tapero]

What's your reason?

I don't reject it; it has nothing to do with my life whatsoever.

I am a Christian. There is one God, father Son, Holy Spirit, One God, There is no other God.

Anyone rejects Christ, rejects God.

all other faiths believe in a created god. No matter what they say, or what name they give their god, even if they say it's from the ot of our 66 book bible, it is not the same God, as there is only ONE God, Father, Son, Spirit, and all else is false.

Plenty in the world that has nothing to do with me; now if someone were trying to proselyize me, I would say no thank you etc.

I'm a Christian.

So, I think to reject one must have to consider; and I'm not one to consider false things, such as faith in little g gods. There is one God as I said before, so there is no rejection of another, since there is only One God.

Blessings,
tapero