Why do you believe in the evolution theory?

[Split Rock]

One at a time please....
And don't call me Shirley.


My question was why aren't there more examples.
In a random, non designed theory, I would expect more
than 50% of species to be examples of an intermediate species.

If you were scientifically inclined, you would know perfectly well that
all evidence must be questioned till the cows come home.

You would expect more than 50% of species to be examples of intermediates between major taxonomic groups??? Is that what you are claiming? If we show you transitionals between species, you will just claim, "that's within a kind."

Let's see if I'm right. Horse evolution is a great example of evolution in which we have just about a complete line from Eohippus/Hyracotherium to Equus (modern horse).
http://chem.tufts.edu/science/evolution/HorseEvolution.htm
Horse Evolution

 

[Davian]

Because there has to be a reason why the overwhelming majority of biologists, who presumably know something about biology, sign up to Evolution. And they do so irrespective of whether they are atheists, Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists or otherwise.

That kind of unanimity cannot very easily be explained, except upon the supposition of overwhelmingly strong evidence.

Succinct.

 

[Queller]

I don't see a denial of evolution as a failure to think critically. It's a theory for a reason and just like everyone says I shouldn't just accept things from the bible without critical thinking people shouldn't accept theories as fact. Micro evolution makes sense and is factual but the theory of evolution is not. Evolution is nothing more then a flawed theory. I've never seen a half monkey half man.... And where's that missing link again??? It can't be fact if it's not proven.

A half monkey/half man would be a good start towards disproving evolution.

So if you believe in evolution tell us why.

Because I have looked at the evidence God left in the real world, His "fingerprints", as it were.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

A half monkey/half man would be a good start towards disproving evolution.

Because I have looked at the evidence God left in the real world, His "fingerprints", as it were.

Kind after kind, you've never observed anything else. Will never observe a new species coming into being - ever. Cats will always be cats, dogs will always be dogs. And after billions and billion of generations, E-coli is and always will be E coli.

The fingerprints are there before your eyes. You just refuse to dust for prints is all.

 

[CabVet]

Kind after kind, you've never observed anything else. Will never observe a new species coming into being - ever. Cats will always be cats, dogs will always be dogs. And after billions and billion of generations, E-coli is and always will be E coli.

If you knew what evolution is, you would know that's exactly what it predicts. Kind after kind. A dog giving birth to anything other than a dog would disprove evolution.

The fingerprints are there before your eyes. You just refuse to dust for prints is all.

I would imagine an all powerful deity would have done a better job.

 

[Gracchus]

Amazing !!! You can see the fingers !!!!
Can you see that they're not pointing back at the person pointing also? Or did you miss that point?

In point of fact (I couldn't resist!) the fingers are pointing at a hand. I would have supposed it to be a hand belonging to the same person owning the index finger. Thus the fingers are pointing to that person who is pointing.
If I point at my hand I am pointing at me.
Just a quibble!

 

[AV1611VET]

What's the barrier between micro evolution and macro evolution ...

Time.

 

[Loudmouth]

Time.

Why isn't 4 billion years enough time?

 

[HitchSlap]

I don't see a denial of evolution as a failure to think critically. It's a theory for a reason and just like everyone says I shouldn't just accept things from the bible without critical thinking people shouldn't accept theories as fact. Micro evolution makes sense and is factual but the theory of evolution is not. Evolution is nothing more then a flawed theory. I've never seen a half monkey half man.... And where's that missing link again??? It can't be fact if it's not proven.

So if you believe in evolution tell us why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSmTPThWD_c

 

[SkyWriting]

So you approve of deliberate misrepresentation of science? I've go news for you. Deliberate misrepresentation is not criticism. It is dishonesty.

Such things, when revealed, harm the critic and generally
the "victim" gains from the controversy.

 

[SkyWriting]

You would expect more than 50% of species to be examples of intermediates between major taxonomic groups?

Much more.

Is that what you are claiming? If we show you transnationals between species, you will just claim, "that's within a kind."

I have no way to know what a "kind" is.

I could invent some groups, as many have, but that would take knowing
every aspect of DNA and how it expresses itself, in every combination,
under all conditions.

Under the right conditions any species may have the ability to evolve
into any other species. I don't know what the limits are.


So you have the horse series. My question is not why you have the horse series
to support your theory. My question is why not 3000 more examples?

 

[SkyWriting]

Let's see if I'm right. Horse evolution is a great example of evolution in which we have just about a complete line from Eohippus/Hyracotherium to Equus (modern horse).
Horse Evolution Over 55 Million Years
Horse Evolution

Why would I need to say anything about them being similar? Eohippus (meaning "dawn horse")

 

[RickG]

Such things, when revealed, harm the critic and generally
the "victim" gains from the controversy.

You didn't answer my question. Do you approve of the deliberate misrepresentation of science?

 

[Davian]

I don't see a denial of evolution as a failure to think critically. It's a theory for a reason and just like everyone says I shouldn't just accept things from the bible without critical thinking people shouldn't accept theories as fact. Micro evolution makes sense and is factual but the theory of evolution is not. Evolution is nothing more then a flawed theory. I've never seen a half monkey half man.... And where's that missing link again??? It can't be fact if it's not proven.

So if you believe in evolution tell us why.

 

[ThinkForYourself]

So, its okay to abuse the 9th commandment in God's name?

Well, it is SOP for every creationist apologist I've seen on youtube.

From the top dogs like Ken Ham, Kent Hovind, Ray Comfort, William Lane Craig, and Ted Haggard to the wannabes like VenomfangX and Nephlimfree, they all knowingly lie.

 

[ThinkForYourself]

I don't accept the farce of evolution. It has no proof, no evidence, and will not stand the test of time.

I know right? Go visit the biology department of MIT. All you have to do to get a PhD is promise to unswervingly be a Darwinist. No books, no study, nothing. A five minute ceremony, and boom! An MIT PhD.

It's so simple, why do you think more creationists don't get that degree?

It is a lie, perpetuated by the elect intellectuals and they will fabricate, formulate, extrapolate data to prove it. Then hide, bastardize, destroy anything that proves against it.

If any educated, accredited, learned and respected person stands up publicly against this lie they will be discredited, harassed, blasphemed, ridiculed, and bullied for going against the powers that be that owe their lives, careers, credibility, financial backing and status to the perpetuation of this fallacy.

I know, any scientist who overturned evolution would become instantly famous, rich, and amongst the giants of science, but they don't, even though it is so easy to overturn.

I mean, even people on religious forums, who know nothing whatsoever about science, biology, and evolution, know enough to overturn evolution. And these very same people absolutely refuse to accept the glory, the fame, the riches that would come with their proofs.

It's gotta be Satan holding them back!

The time is coming where it is going to be harder and harder to hold on to this hoax. Things coming will make it harder and harder to deny that there is a dimension that exists in a different realm than ours and is spiritual in nature. It is going to get louder and louder and louder.

Things unexplainable by the joke called "empirical science" are coming to this age. Sights, and occurrences that will be impossible to accept and at the same time say that this world happened on it's own and life was spontaneous as well as all living things came from this one little impossibility.

I know right! One day someone who has all the proof, someone exactly like you Jack, is going to publish and become instantly famous, rich, and beloved by a billion people.

Go for it Jack! Publish your work, prove yourself, and accept God's glory!

Or are you just too damn lazy to stand up for God?

 

[ThinkForYourself]

...
So if you believe in evolution tell us why.

Two reasons:

1) It is demonstrably the best explanation we have.

2) It works, and is used every day to develop vaccines and other medicines which save and improve lives. I've never heard of creationism doing that. Anyone have any examples?

 

[pgp_protector]

wrong thread.

 

[justlookinla]

Two reasons:

1) It is demonstrably the best explanation we have.

2) It works, and is used every day to develop vaccines and other medicines which save and improve lives. I've never heard of creationism doing that. Anyone have any examples?

Darwinism isn't used every day to develop vaccines and other medicines. Darwinism is a philosophical worldview, whereas vaccine development occurs apart from the view that humanity is the result of random/chance mutations producing new life forms.

 

[katerinah1947]

I don't see a denial of evolution as a failure to think critically. It's a theory for a reason and just like everyone says I shouldn't just accept things from the bible without critical thinking people shouldn't accept theories as fact. Micro evolution makes sense and is factual but the theory of evolution is not. Evolution is nothing more then a flawed theory. I've never seen a half monkey half man.... And where's that missing link again??? It can't be fact if it's not proven.

So if you believe in evolution tell us why.

Hi,
Do you remember the Blessings of God given in Genesis, and the other one, given to the family of Noah, as they left the ark.
A blessing is a command by God, based on what God did to the people later who refused to spread. God caused them to spread. It is said twice. He did something to cause them to spread.
Now, He also blessed the people in Genesis, with Subdue The Earth. He did. That is a Command, by God, all Blessings are Commands by God.
Now, if you have not rejected that idea, then we can go on. If you have quit here, as until you absolutely know that God's Blessings are also commands the next part is useless, for you.
To subdue, the earth science is needed. That now is a command by God. God commanded science to be done, in Genesis. That command has given us a much subdued earth. So, we all have done our part, and each of the subductions, the subdueing has good in it. They do. All what God does is Good. So His command to us, is shown to us also in the good it does.
Evolution is a science, that scares many, and it is a rather new science, thus it can change in time, but the main points cannot.
You have noticed of course many non scientific types and some even nefarious scientissts, abusing and getting wrong what is said in science.
Who cares, if the honest scientists, really working for God, say evolution seems to have happened. Who cares if they say based on what we have found, from our Command in Genesis to do this, we think this is true, we evolved in some way. Who cares?
I am a scientist, and in my day, an impressive one by all accounts. I am also a total believer in God, actually past belief, I know God is Real. I love Science. I love it by this definition: Science is finding out what God has done. Religion should be that also. It should be finding out which of all the statements made about spirits and gods, is true. Yet, there is not enough of that, that I see.
Did you know before today, that one person me, says God's blesssings are a Command? I think you did not. That is a flaw in religion to me.
Science and therefore God's Command is nothing to fear, yet most people do, and some people will misuse science, but on evolution it looks like it happened. If God did it that way, what is the problem with accepting that.
Before this evolution stuff started, we were all convinced, Adam was born in 5000 B.C. Before all this science stuff happened, we were all convinced, the sun rotated around the earth, before all this science stuff happened, yes Commanded by God, we were sure sickness was cause by evil spirits only.
Be not afraid of science. I have even used God, in my science work. Yes, the nut jobs in science, not all of us, have thrown out God, but God is not out of science, He merely does not let them know He is Science. They see it as beauty. All true science is beautiful to those working in it. It is so beautiful, they can't leave it.
...Katherina.,
If God did Evolution, than it is correct.
...Kate.,