Why do you believe in the evolution theory?

[Ada Lovelace]

If AV wants to choose a Christian doctor that's his choice. I don't choose my doctor on basis of religion. I choose because of his resume and how much experience hes had. The specialist who is performing my endoscopy and possibly taking my gallbladder out isnt Christian but hes got excellent bedside manner and is to the point.

I worship the same God as AV, except his beliefs are different from mine. I do believe in evolution for the most part. However where AV and I differ in our faith of God is that he will not read any other bible. That's not a problem for me. It becomes a problem if he starts saying my word doesn't mean anything because of it but somehow I don't think hes that harsh.

The religious and spiritual beliefs of my doctors have never been relevant to me and my parents, but I respect why it is for some depending on their circumstances. I have a very rare disease and just feel very appreciative to have an excellent specialist in it who has also made the effort to develop a rapport with us. I believe she's Muslim, though I've never actually asked to confirm. I live in LA so it's a very multicultural city.

I will say that it was very meaningful to my great-grandmother that her surgeon prayed with her before a surgery he performed. She was in her late 80s then and understandably frightened. She lived in a more devoutly Christian area of Virginia, so I think the topic of religion came up more organically than it would here. It gave her peace and comfort. She and my family felt very grateful for his kindness.

 

[MissRowy]

I live in Sydney which is a very multicultural place and we have doctors and nurses of different backgrounds. My university is very welcoming of different faiths.
Im impressed that a doctor would do that. Obviously he was understanding of her needs compared to some doctors who see patients as dollar signs on their paycheck.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

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[MissRowy]

This boring you lewis?? Did you want to get back on topic?

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

This boring you lewis?? Did you want to get back on topic?

Off-topic and boring. Don't bother about me, I'm reading elsewhere. (here)

 

[JacksBratt]

-_- yes, they could all be hoaxes. Just because there are a lot of images doesn't mean that they couldn't all be lies. This is the age of photoshop, hoaxes have never been easier to make than they are now. Heck, use actual legitimate photos and just alter them a little bit, a 10-year old could do it.

Additionally, even if the technology thing was true, human evolution would not be troubled by this seeing as it all went away eventually. Heck, there was one point in which as many as 5 reasonably intelligent bipeds roamed the earth. But then Homo sapiens were all "there can only be ONE!" and had a role to play in the extinction of Neanderthals pretty much for sure, and possibly for the others as well, through invasion of territory and potentially direct fighting.

Yes, they are all hoaxes. Hundreds of people fabricating giant skulls, newspaper articles made to appear to be from the 1800's, time travelling to get the President of the USA, Abe Lincoln to say something in his speech, falsifying memoirs of the North American native people to site stories of a giant race that ate human flesh and tormented their people.

Then, to top it all off, the less intelligent Homo Sapiens announce that "there can be only one" and defeat the more intelligent and technologically advanced humans. This defeated species was able to mill and quarry stones the size of small buildings, assemble them to last for millennia without mortar, align stones in structures that align with stones in structures on the other side of the globe, without GPS or aerial observation abilities, smelt metals that are impossible or difficult to produce today and already had computing devices.

You will go to no length to dismiss large amounts of artifacts as hoaxes while putting your whole weight on the dismal fossil record that, to this day, is used by both creationists and evolutionists, to back up their claims.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Yes, they are all hoaxes. Hundreds of people fabricating giant skulls, newspaper articles made to appear to be from the 1800's, time travelling to get the President of the USA, Abe Lincoln to say something in his speech, falsifying memoirs of the North American native people to site stories of a giant race that ate human flesh and tormented their people.

Then, to top it all off, the less intelligent Homo Sapiens announce that "there can be only one" and defeat the more intelligent and technologically advanced humans. This defeated species was able to mill and quarry stones the size of small buildings, assemble them to last for millennia without mortar, align stones in structures that align with stones in structures on the other side of the globe, without GPS or aerial observation abilities, smelt metals that are impossible or difficult to produce today and already had computing devices.

You will go to no length to dismiss large amounts of artifacts as hoaxes while putting your whole weight on the dismal fossil record that, to this day, is used by both creationists and evolutionists, to back up their claims.

the woo is strong with this one.

 

[JacksBratt]

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[JacksBratt]

Yes they can.

Yes, all of them are hoaxes.... cool story bro.

Paul, the Baptist. check out:

God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.


What is basically being said here is that those who know God but don't give Him credit for what He has done and what He is capable of are fools.

Note the bold "worshiped and served the created things rather than the creator"

This is speaking directly to those who believe in Him but not that He created the universe the way it is described in the bible.

The fallout from a nation that believes this way is given in the verses that follow. Check it out and see if the results of this error in our belief system as a nation is not manifesting itself in our world today....

 

[crjmurray]

Yes, they are all hoaxes. Hundreds of people fabricating giant skulls, newspaper articles made to appear to be from the 1800's, time travelling to get the President of the USA, Abe Lincoln to say something in his speech, falsifying memoirs of the North American native people to site stories of a giant race that ate human flesh and tormented their people.

Then, to top it all off, the less intelligent Homo Sapiens announce that "there can be only one" and defeat the more intelligent and technologically advanced humans. This defeated species was able to mill and quarry stones the size of small buildings, assemble them to last for millennia without mortar, align stones in structures that align with stones in structures on the other side of the globe, without GPS or aerial observation abilities, smelt metals that are impossible or difficult to produce today and already had computing devices.

You will go to no length to dismiss large amounts of artifacts as hoaxes while putting your whole weight on the dismal fossil record that, to this day, is used by both creationists and evolutionists, to back up their claims.

You accept giant stories without question but evolution is too hard to swallow?

 

[JacksBratt]

Why do you keep referencing the Paracas skulls? Even if they weren't giant hoaxes (they are) the being they belonged to wouldn't be giants. Do you understand the different between 'elongated' and 'giant'?

The skulls found are not just "elongated". They were not the product of head boarding or binding as these practices do not increase the volume of the brain cavity. These skulls have a much larger brain cavity and when the skull is used to scale the body size for which they would have came from, the person would have been much larger.

I know..... define "giant".... right?

How do you know it's 5,000 years old?

IDK, maybe they ask an evolutionist or count the rings.....

Not really. Like I told you last time, evolution makes no statements on how technologically advanced a civilization is. If we found ancient Egyptians with iPods in their tombs, it would be weird, but it wouldn't make a differene to evolution. I don't know why you think it does.

I know, it's going to take more than skeleton evidence that parallels biblical documents and manuscripts and technologically advanced species to knock the monkey off the pedestal of evolution. It may even take calling some one else s archeological finds "all hoaxes".

Bring me some water when you want me to swallow that pill.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

You accept giant stories without question but evolution is too hard to swallow?

Must have swallowed a Hovindasaurus.

 

[JacksBratt]

Lets say you had the choice between two doctors; one Christian and one atheist and the atheist has a clear reputation as being the best in his field, while the Christian doctor does not. Would you still choose the Christian doctor?

That's a great point. It makes absolutely no difference if a doctor believes in Creation or evolution. The doctor is treating you now and it as no effect on what they can do for you in treating your illness or ailment.

You might as well ask if the doctor liked the movie "Titanic" or not. Same affect and repercussions.

 

[JacksBratt]

It never stops to amaze me to see to what lengths some people will go to try and stick to their bronze age ideas...

Why put in all that energy to come up with these crackpot theories?
It would be much better spend reading an actual decent science book.

FYI jack, the post I quoted is post nr 666

666, that is hilarious.

By the way, I believe that the science books are going to have to be changed.

 

[JacksBratt]

the woo is strong with this one.

I am woo master?

 

[JacksBratt]

You accept giant stories without question but evolution is too hard to swallow?

Stories of giants are a huge part of the Biblical account of the history of this universe. They are also paralleled in other ancient texts such as The Book of Enoch, The Book of Jasher, The Jubilee, the writings of Josephus.

Giants are Biblical and not just Goliath. There is ample and remarkable archeological evidence, but the biggest reason I see it as more acceptable truth is that evolutionists want it to go away so badly. It's hitting too close to the heart of this farce.

When a religion like the TOE that is so interwoven into our societies educational system, our scientific practitioners, and a cacophony of baffle-gab can be heard world wide any time that this golden calf is threatened with a melt down, is so nervous of something else being proven true that they have to dismiss it, debunk it, crush it, chastise it at it's very moment of presentation lest it be real truth....

In that presented data, I will believe, has more weight than the TOE and all its assumptions, speculations, extrapolations and contrived hoaxes combined.

 

[JacksBratt]

Must have swallowed a Hovindasaurus.

Hey Lewis, you think you can debate Mr. Hovind?

 

[crjmurray]

Hey Lewis, you think you can debate Mr. Hovind?

I think a not particularly bright armadillo could debate Mr hovind.

 

[Davian]

Hey Lewis, you think you can debate Mr. Hovind?

Hovind - the guy that uses the Wham-O Magic Window kids toy to "disprove" the modern understanding of geology?

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[Subduction Zone]

Hovind - the guy that uses the Wham-O Magic Window kids toy to "disprove" the modern understanding of geology?

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And in case you did not know, Kent Hovind recently lost another court case on one charge and the jury was hung on three others. He was found guilty of criminal contempt of court, a result that will mean he will lose at the very least his "good time" on his current sentence and could add a few years on to that. He will also face a retrial on the hung charges. Since Kent seems not to learn too well and prosecutors do learn from their mistakes the forecast is rather bleak for old Kent:


Kent Hovind Will Face A New Trial - Forbes