Why do you believe in the evolution theory?

[ThinkForYourself]

I asked..."Is the image an example of the first skull transitioning into the last skull?"

You answered...no, they're all considered transitional fossils.

If they're not an example of the first skull transitioning into the last skull, then they're not an example of transitional fossils.

You need to reread what I said. I have said I don't know.

Whether they are in the right order or not does not change if they are "transitional".

As you can see here: Human Evolution, they are transitional fossils. Any other questions?

 

[justlookinla]

You need to reread what I said. I have said I don't know.

Whether they are in the right order or not does not change if they are "transitional".

As you can see here: Human Evolution, they are transitional fossils. Any other questions?

If you don't know they're in the right order, how can you know they're transitional? Transitional from what to what?

 

[justlookinla]

I don't believe in evolution for the same reason I don't believe in gravity, it's science. Science is not a belief system, it's how the world works.

Gravity doesn't attempt to explain the genesis of humanity, certain forms of evolution does. One is based on the scientific method, the other is based on guesses and suppositions.

 

[ThinkForYourself]

LOL@"peer-reviewed". "Peer-reviewed apparently does little to prevent many of the errors of 'science'.

Science has given us cars, airplanes, satellites, put a vehicle on mars, put man on the moon, produced vaccines, medicine, and many other things that enhance our life. It is demonstrably not seriously flawed, and peer review is part of that process.

If you say science doesn't know anything, then be ethical and quit using products developed by science.

 

[justlookinla]

Science has given us cars, airplanes, satellites, put a vehicle on mars, put man on the moon, produced vaccines, medicine, and many other things that enhance our life. It is demonstrably not seriously flawed, and peer review is part of that process.

If you say science doesn't know anything, then be ethical and quit using products developed by science.

I'm not suggesting that science doesn't know anything, I'm saying that science doesn't know everything and that science is littered with error from the past. The truth of science today may be the lie of science tomorrow. Simply be aware that science isn't always telling you the truth.

 

[SnowyMacie]

One is based on the scientific method, the other is based on guesses and suppositions.

No, they both have been tested by scientific method, that's why they're both called theories.

 

[ThinkForYourself]

If you don't know they're in the right order, how can you know they're transitional? Transitional from what to what?

Apparently you have read the content matter explained in the link I gave you, and you could not understand it. Sorry, but there is nothing I can do.

Do you think someone participating in discussions about the Theory of Evolution makes any sense when they lack the prerequisite knowledge required to understand the subject, let alone make meaningful comments?

 

[ThinkForYourself]

I'm not suggesting that science doesn't know anything, I'm saying that science doesn't know everything and that science is littered with error from the past. The truth of science today may be the lie of science tomorrow.

What are you talking about? To say The truth of science today may be the lie of science tomorrow makes is clear that you lack even the most basic understanding of science.

Simply be aware that science isn't always telling you the truth.

Another statement that shows you lack even a basic understanding of science. Science does not purport to tell the "truth". No scientist should ever claim to know something to a 100% certainty.

Please, learn at least the basics of science and the TOE before commenting on them. Thanks.

EDIT: If you would like, I will try to help you. First, could you please pm me your level of education so I know where to start.

 

[whois]

. . . , you would understand allopatric speciation, . . .

wait.
a what?
so now we have this "invader" taking over a population, spreading like wildfire.
no, i haven't heard of it and it sounds ridiculous.
do you have anything of substance in support of this concept?
surely you don't expect me to take you at your word, especially after you last sentence.
another thing, if evolutionists were really on the up and up, why do they cloud the issue with words the common man does not know?
one more thing, a survey of 1000 biology teachers show the majority reluctant to teach evolution.
it was suggested the teachers take an "evolution" class.

Thus, Balaam's Ass makes more sense than you to a biologist, and the talking serpent of Eden spoke more truth.

please sir, do not ever speak to me again.

 

[whois]

The truth of science today may be the lie of science tomorrow.

if anyone doubts that, look into how they found the missing solar neutrinos.

Simply be aware that science isn't always telling you the truth.

this where evolution is giving science a bad name.
or more precisely, certain groups.

it seems to me that the "old school darwinists" are the most problem followed closely by creationists.

 

[ThinkForYourself]

one more thing, a survey of 1000 biology teachers show the majority reluctant to teach evolution.

Without the following information, your points are meaningless. Could you please answer:

1. Could you please link to the survey.

2. Who conducted the survey?

3. What question(s) were asked?

4. How were the teachers surveyed chosen?

5. Why were they reluctant to teach evolution?

it was suggested the teachers take an "evolution" class.

If they didn't want to teach evolution because they didn't understand it, don't you think this is an excellent suggestion?

 

[whois]

Without the following information, your points are meaningless. Could you please answer:

1. Could you please link to the survey.

sure:
High school biology teachers in U.S. reluctant to endorse evolution in class, study finds -- ScienceDaily

If they didn't want to teach evolution because they didn't understand it, don't you think this is an excellent suggestion?

why would they become biology teachers?
what makes you think biology teachers don't understand evolution?

 

[ThinkForYourself]

Originally Posted by ThinkForYourself

1. Could you please link/post the graph.
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this site doesn't support file uploads.

2. Who published the graph?
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the british journal "nature"

3. Is this information from a peer-reviewed paper? If so, could I please have the title of the paper and the journal or ? it was published in.
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sure.
Martin, Robert D., “Primate origins: plugging the gaps”, Nature, Vol. 363, 20 May 1993 , p 223

4. How does the graph show we could have evolved from alligators just as easily as from apes.
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it means you can't draw ANY conclusions from it.

Thanks.

[/quote]

Thanks, but if I can't see the graph, I have no idea if your points were valid or invalid.

 

[SteveB28]

I'm not suggesting that science doesn't know anything, I'm saying that science doesn't know everything and that science is littered with error from the past. The truth of science today may be the lie of science tomorrow. Simply be aware that science isn't always telling you the truth.

Please be aware that 'science' is not an entity, or a person, or even a group of people - it is a process. So it doesn't "tell" you anything. It is a means by which we can find things out for ourselves.

 

[bhsmte]

wait.
a what?
so now we have this "invader" taking over a population, spreading like wildfire.
no, i haven't heard of it and it sounds ridiculous.
do you have anything of substance in support of this concept?
surely you don't expect me to take you at your word, especially after you last sentence.
another thing, if evolutionists were really on the up and up, why do they cloud the issue with words the common man does not know?
one more thing, a survey of 1000 biology teachers show the majority reluctant to teach evolution.
it was suggested the teachers take an "evolution" class.


please sir, do not ever speak to me again.

Did you ever find those laws you claim existed, to force the teaching evolution? Or were you wrong about that claim.

 

[whois]

Did you ever find those laws you claim existed, to force the teaching evolution? Or were you wrong about that claim.

strawman.
i never claimed any such laws existed.

you are refering to the following post of mine:

These legal rulings and legislative victories are clearly necessary for evolution to maintain its proper place in the biology curriculum, but they are not sufficient. Implementation of state standards, adherence to court decisions, and the full integration of textbook material rests in the hands of the thousands of classroom teachers throughout the country. And about this, we are less sanguine. Notwithstanding the professionalism and bravery of the teachers in Dover, the status of evolution in the biology and life sciences curriculum remains highly problematic and threatened.

we will FORCE evolution upon you by law.

if you bothered to read the material i present, and follow up on it, you would know exactly where it came from.

 

[JacksBratt]

You are correct.

It is possible that Santa Claus' elves made all life on earth at the same time. Or Zeus. Or Mithra. Or an invisible purple unicorn that lives in your toilet bowl. It is all possible.

But supernatural beings creating life doesn't really sound too plausible, does it?

You gotta give us more than "Yup, we don't know how we got here but, shucks, when we got here, that little one celled life form just took off. It somehow found a way to eat, replicate and then branched out into both plants and animals. It just kept go'n until it got to recordable history. Then, for some reason, all the evolving just stopped.

Don't worry, I think for myself.

 

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[Mr Strawberry]

Don't worry, I think for myself.

Based on what?