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Why do you believe in the evolution theory?

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JacksBratt

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You would be wrong (All you had to do was google "skulls human evolution". You should try it next time! :) )

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This is a lovely picture of many fossil skulls. However, there is zero proof that any of these were ancestors of the other, next or previous. They are all just proof of beings that lived at one time and they had a skull and this is their skull. Not one shred of proof that one was the previous version of the other as they morphed, deviated, evolved into the other.

That, my friend, is just extrapolation, assumption and speculation.

Yes, there are many, many, many, scientists and educated people who will tell you that this is fact. However, what if one of them stood up and stated what I just said? They would be criticized, chastised, standard, discredited and probably lose whatever job, grants or funding they had for going against the status quo of the powers that promote the lies of evolution.

Truth is not a democracy. If 1,000,000 people say something is one way, it doesn't make it true.
 
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Yes, there are many, many, many, scientists and educated people who will tell you that this is fact. However, what if one of them stood up and stated what I just said? They would be criticized, chastised, standard, discredited and probably lose whatever job, grants or funding they had for going against the status quo of the powers that promote the lies of evolution.

And then they can go work for any of the numerous ID organizations out there, who are always looking to hire people like them, and get paid more money than they ever did in their old jobs doing far, far less.

Poor guys.

By the way, who are the 'powers that promote the lies of evolution', exactly?
 
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This is a lovely picture of many fossil skulls. However, there is zero proof that any of these were ancestors of the other, next or previous. They are all just proof of beings that lived at one time and they had a skull and this is their skull. Not one shred of proof that one was the previous version of the other as they morphed, deviated, evolved into the other.
We do not prove in science. Evolution explains these fossils, and no other scientific theory does so.

That, my friend, is just extrapolation, assumption and speculation.
It is Inference based on all the available physical data. Not "assumption."

Yes, there are many, many, many, scientists and educated people who will tell you that this is fact. However, what if one of them stood up and stated what I just said? They would be criticized, chastised, standard, discredited and probably lose whatever job, grants or funding they had for going against the status quo of the powers that promote the lies of evolution.
Criticism is the basis of scientific evaluation of ideas. If you claim that an accepted theory is wrong, you better be able to back it up. If you cannot handle criticism, stay out of the kitchen.

Truth is not a democracy. If 1,000,000 people say something is one way, it doesn't make it true.
Science is not a democracy. Not all ideas are given equal value. You have to back up your conclusions in science, or you will feel it.
 
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And then they can go work for any of the numerous ID organizations out there, who are always looking to hire people like them, and get paid more money than they ever did in their old jobs doing far, far less.

Poor guys.

By the way, who are the 'powers that promote the lies of evolution', exactly?

This refers to the N.W.O. Darwinist Cabal. A super-secretive mega-organization run by the Alien Greys and Reptilians to control human thought. :wave:
 
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This is a lovely picture of many fossil skulls. However, there is zero proof that any of these were ancestors of the other, next or previous. They are all just proof of beings that lived at one time and they had a skull and this is their skull. Not one shred of proof that one was the previous version of the other as they morphed, deviated, evolved into the other.

That, my friend, is just extrapolation, assumption and speculation.

Yes, there are many, many, many, scientists and educated people who will tell you that this is fact. However, what if one of them stood up and stated what I just said? They would be criticized, chastised, standard, discredited and probably lose whatever job, grants or funding they had for going against the status quo of the powers that promote the lies of evolution.

Truth is not a democracy. If 1,000,000 people say something is one way, it doesn't make it true.

evolution theory will never go away until there is a better theory to replace it.

It is psychologically impossible to stop scientists from referring to evolution theory until that better theory comes along.

No, merely saying there was an intelligent designer doesn't count as a better theory. That's not explaining things, that's explaining away things.
 
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evolution theory will never go away until there is a better theory to replace it.
Evolution is going to wax stronger and stronger until it culminates with the Antichrist in the Tribulation period.

At that point, Jesus will come and put an end to this connect-the-dots game.

After that, it may make a comeback during the Millennial Reign, then it will be put down once and for all, as we move into Eternity Future.
 
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This is a lovely picture of many fossil skulls. However, there is zero proof that any of these were ancestors of the other, next or previous.

There is ample proof that they have a mixture of human and ape features which makes them evidence for the theory of evolution.
 
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We do not prove in science. Evolution explains these fossils, and no other scientific theory does so.


It is Inference based on all the available physical data. Not "assumption."


Criticism is the basis of scientific evaluation of ideas. If you claim that an accepted theory is wrong, you better be able to back it up. If you cannot handle criticism, stay out of the kitchen.


Science is not a democracy. Not all ideas are given equal value. You have to back up your conclusions in science, or you will feel it.

You know, I have heard this argument about what "science" does and doesn't do so often here. The definition of "science" and what it proves or the fact that it "proves" nothing, is presented here over and over.

Who really knows what the definition of "science" is and what does it matter?

The fact is...... fossils are a static piece of data that show what a particular creature had for bones. It is anyone's guess as to what that creature had for parents and all you know for sure is that it had some.
You cannot say what it's great great great grandfather was or it's great great great grand kid was. You cannot even tell if it had kids, brothers or sisters.

The information from a fossil is limited, in fact, greatly limited.

So, what definition of "science" that you want to present has no bearing on the amount of information that you can learn from a bone, pile of bones or what ever. Taking it beyond the absolute facts is extrapolation, speculation, interpretation, assumptions and in most cases a pipe dream at best. You have taken it out of the realm of any form of science and put it into guessing.

The fact that some dude has a bunch of letters after his name does not mean that in some miraculous way, he can see into the past to see what this creature had for ancestors. Nor can he extrapolate what happened to the creatures offspring. It's a guess, period.

If you gather 1,000,000 million of these dudes together and they agree, it still doesn't magically create a fact out of a guess. Truth is not proven by a democracy.

As far as someone presenting a criticism of these guesses, it happens from time to time. The critic is promptly discredited for being a creationist and therefore, biased. Meanwhile, everyone of the egg heads promoting the assumption are also biased.

There is an unspoken, unmerited, unprofessional, unscientific, and unmentionable opression on those who speak out against the theory of evolution.

Truth is being squashed in order to keep the theory of evolution on life support.
 
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There is an unspoken, unmerited, unprofessional, unscientific, and unmentionable opression on those who speak out against the theory of evolution.

Truth is being squashed in order to keep the theory of evolution on life support.
I could not have said this better, myself!
 
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And yet people who don't know will often make something up.
Evolutionary theory does not even try to answer all questions. For instance, it has nothing to do with cosmology. Admittedly, and probably necessarily, some things about biology are not known. The theory does explain some of the things we do know in a way that fits the facts and makes sense to the kind of minds that can make sense of things. Some minds can. Not everyone is religious.
Awww ... and you were doing so well! Go back and read what I posted again. Or read the following (Get your mommy or some smart person, if you know any, to help with the big words.):

--- Ape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We didn't become something else. We are apes.

:doh:

In my opinion evolution does not touch on the origins of life because it would prove evolution seriously flawed.
 
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There is ample proof that they have a mixture of human and ape features which makes them evidence for the theory of evolution.


All it proves is that at some point in time a creature existed that looked similar to the other creatures. You cannot say that it was the ancestor or the offspring. You cannot say that it wasn't just a type of creature that lived once and then went extinct.

If you line up all the skull types of all the dogs you could convince an observer that the chihuahua gradually morphed into a great Dane. Add some skulls from small dear and goats and then some ponies and horses, move on to cows and then a buffalo and I could present that a chihuahua was the ancestor of a buffalo...... all a joke.

Fossils are static. presenting the transition is speculation, not fact. Having a bunch of intellectual's who logged long hours in a classroom doesn't create more evidence.
 
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Truth is being squashed in order to keep the theory of evolution on life support.

Why?

I know you believe they're promoting the lie because their afraid of losing their jobs, but that doesn't really answer the question of 'why'? Who's paying them all this money to promote something they know isn't true? What do they get out of it? How is this profitable for them? And what's stopping these 'millions of dudes' from joining any of the quite financially secure organizations creationists have set up. People like Ken Ham and Ray Comfort make quite a bit of money, and they're nowhere near as knowledgeable as them. Places like the Discovery Institute don't even require you to do active research.
 
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Evolution is going to wax stronger and stronger until it culminates with the Antichrist in the Tribulation period.

At that point, Jesus will come and put an end to this connect-the-dots game.

After that, it may make a comeback during the Millennial Reign, then it will be put down once and for all, as we move into Eternity Future.

We are already in the tribulation period.

Rev 1:9

9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
KJV

The antichrist has already come

1 John 4:3
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
KJV

Jesus explained what would be the necessary pre-condition of His return:

Mark 13:10
10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.
KJV
 
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Of course.

You just cannot say that it's great, great, great, great,.......... great grandparent was a starfish or a lizard or an amoeba.

So what was its late Permian or early Ordovician, or late Precambrian, ancestor?
 
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And then they can go work for any of the numerous ID organizations out there, who are always looking to hire people like them, and get paid more money than they ever did in their old jobs doing far, far less.

Poor guys.

By the way, who are the 'powers that promote the lies of evolution', exactly?

I'm going to pull a card of our famous "loudmouth" here and ask for some evidence of these higher paid jobs for doing far less...... hot air as far as I'm concerned.

The people that want evolution promoted? Really? How about the ACLU, the Smithsonian, the people who pay all the grants and bursaries to fund all the "research", the boards of the universities that fire or drastically demote the professors if the stand up against this myth.

Not long after a student from Loomis Basin Charter School (LBCS) invited her two friends to a Creation seminar held off campus, school officials became livid, summonsing her to the principal's office four times in the same day in order to force her into writing a "confession" of what she had done.


TWO headteachers at a Scottish primary school who allowed members of a US creationist Christian religious sect into classrooms have been removed from their posts, it emerged last night.



In most cases, the reason they hate anything anti-evolution is because it is pro creation and anything pro creation is pro bible and if it is pro bible it is deemed religious and therefore unacceptable.


Whether it is a fact or not, it is thrown out because it may lead to religion.



Heaven forbid the truth get out and it may mean that the Bible was right. That would mean there may be a God......Oh no!!!


Stomp out the truth at all cost. It may mean I am accountable to a superior being.
 
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So what was its late Permian or early Ordovician, or late Precambrian, ancestor?

Nobody knows and nobody can prove that they know. It is all speculation.

I would say that if the early whatever or late whatever was a starfish that it's ancestor was...... a starfish.
 
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We are already in the tribulation period.


I have heard this before, However, has there been a 7 year peace deal been signed with God's people?

Has the "one who restrains" been removed?

I think that the tribulation that is a spoke of with scripture like "time times and half a time" is speaking of is still yet to begin.
 
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