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Why do YECists have such a low opinion of God?

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Ah yes, "Real Age vs. Gibberish Age" -- a classic, AV; had me rollingin the aisles.

You can roll all you want --- how about scroll and answer the questions below?
  1. Existentially the new bicycle is how old?
  2. Physically the new bicycle is how old?
Let's see you laugh your way out of an explanation.
 
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You can roll all you want --- how about scroll and answer the questions below?
  1. Existentially the new bicycle is how old?
  2. Physically the new bicycle is how old?
Let's see you laugh your way out of an explanation.

I try not to spend too much time on irrelvent questions. If there's a connection here to the CvE debate, I'd like to start with that -- if for no other reason than to give me a frame of reference.
 
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I try not to spend too much time on irrelvent questions. If there's a connection here to the CvE debate, I'd like to start with that -- if for no other reason than to give me a frame of reference.

Second time, Nathan, how about you give me an answer to the OP --- since you think it's so funny?

Any child can laugh.

The only connection I care about is you answering it.
 
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Second time, Nathan, how about you give me an answer to the OP --- since you think it's so funny?

Any child can laugh.

The only connection I care about is you answering it.

It is a brand-new bicycle made from old parts.

Now, answer my question: So what?
 
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It is a brand-new bicycle made from old parts.

Third time, Nathan:
  1. Existentially the bicycle is how old?
  2. Physically the bicycle is how old?
Can you answer with numbers, instead of letters?
 
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Third time, Nathan:
  1. Existentially the bicycle is how old?
  2. Physically the bicycle is how old?
Can you answer with numbers, instead of letters?

I can answer in interpretive dance, AV, if I have a mind to. But the questions are meaningless sophistry -- and not even very good sophistry at that.

You have my answer -- it's not the answer that makes you look wise, so naturally it's not the answer you like. Do with it whatever you have a mind to.
 
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Third time, Nathan:
  1. Existentially the bicycle is how old?
  2. Physically the bicycle is how old?
Can you answer with numbers, instead of letters?
I don't believe you. You're a man, and I don't go by man's law. I go by God's law, and God says you're wrong.
 
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Two questions:

1. Wouldn't the new bike show an appearance of age?

* Yes --- it would appear old, because it is old.

2. Wouldn't the new bike show a history of being in existence for 35 years?

* Yes --- it would seem to do so --- therefore documentation to the contrary would be needed - (again, to clarify the issue - not cloud it).
1. Yes, the bike would appear old.
2. Yes, the bike (its parts actually) would show a history of being in existence for 35 years.

How does this help us understand "embedded age?" Are you saying that Adam was made of parts (or molecules) that were older than he was? What does that have to do with him being an adult and knowing how to speak, etc. from day one of his existence?
 
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I can answer in interpretive dance, AV, if I have a mind to. But the questions are meaningless sophistry -- and not even very good sophistry at that.

You have my answer -- it's not the answer that makes you look wise, so naturally it's not the answer you like. Do with it whatever you have a mind to.

Ya --- ain't so funny now --- is it?

It's always much easier to question the questioner than it is to answer the questioner, isn't it?

Now watch Split Rock do the same thing.
 
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1. Yes, the bike would appear old.
2. Yes, the bike (its parts actually) would show a history of being in existence for 35 years.

How does this help us understand "embedded age?" Are you saying that Adam was made of parts (or molecules) that were older than he was? What does that have to do with him being an adult and knowing how to speak, etc. from day one of his existence?

Second time, Split Rock:
  1. How old is the bicycle existentially?
  2. How old is the bicycle physically?
Can you answer with numbers?
 
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Ya --- ain't so funny now --- is it?

It was funnier when we both got the joke. But I have too much sympathy for you to laugh for too long. There comes a time when even I'd think you've had enough.

It's always much easier to question the questioner than it is to answer the questioner, isn't it?

When the questioner is blathering, yes.

(feel honored, AV -- I haven't used the word "blather" since dad scurried off the forums)

BTW, AV -- if it takes a chicken-and-a-half a day-and-a-half to lay an egg-and-a-half, then how long would it take a monkey with a wooden leg to kick all the seeds out of a dill pickle?

Now watch Split Rock do the same thing.

I'm sure he knows a good joke when he sees one too, and has sense enough not to beat the horse too long after it's dead.
 
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I guess to put it another way. Adam, realized he was new. A time traveler would have seem him as mature. A newborn baby is unable to realize such notions.

Except no matter how a time traveller "sees" Adam, he was, in fact, new.
 
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