Why do YEC Christians commonly challenge the theory of evolution, while...

[ximmix]

Therefore, 2+2 could equal 5, because, again, +Y is the unknown factor which is always there.

To use a classic example, according to you, God can make a square circle, just by inserting this +Y (i need to get a patent on that)?

 

[BigV]

To use a classic example, according to you, God can make a square circle, just by inserting this +Y (i need to get a patent on that)?

I’m amazed at Christian naturalism when it comes to most subjects except for those with which Young Earth Creationism is in conflict.

 

[BigV]

The problem is in your view of ¨the man¨...

I thought Jesus was fully man. Also, you should study John 14 more, especially the 12th verse.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It is science 101. Google up "falsifiability". Physics is falisibiable but not evolution, evolutionists don't seem to understand science though.

What makes you think that the theory of evolution is not falsifiable?

 

[Nihilist Virus]

What makes you think that the theory of evolution is not falsifiable?

He said "evolutionist." That's your cue to back away slowly...

 

[Hawkins]

What makes you think that the theory of evolution is not falsifiable?

Try to falsify this,

<A> is evolved from <B>

There are billions of living organism existing and existed in this world. Fill in any then make it falsifiable!

You can't even list ONE evolution which can be falsifiable! Your theory is thus a joke!

Birds are evolved from single cell organisms <----- not falsifiable
Cats are evolved from single cell organisms <----- not falsifiable
Dogs are evolved from single cell organisms <----- not falsifiable
........
<millions> can be listed but none falsifiable. Evolution is a joke!


If you think that any evolution is falsifiable, please write a peer report to the community of scientists instead of vomiting your disgusting BS here!

The best evolutionists can do by far is possibly to make <A> is evolved from <A> falsifiable such as bacteria is evolved from bacteria. Pathetic!

 

[Subduction Zone]

Try to falsify this,

<A> is evolved from <B>

There are billions of living organism existing and existed in this world. Fill in any then make it falsifiable!

You can't even list ONE evolution which can be falsifiable! Your theory is thus a joke!

Birds are evolved from single cell organisms <----- not falsifiable
Cats are evolved from single cell organisms <----- not falsifiable
Dogs are evolved from single cell organisms <----- not falsifiable
........
<millions> can be listed but none falsifiable. Evolution is a joke!


If you think that any evolution is falsifiable, please write a peer report to the community of scientists instead of vomiting your disgusting BS here!

The best evolutionists can do by far is possibly to make <A> is evolved from <A> falsifiable such as bacteria is evolved from bacteria. Pathetic!

Try agan. No strawman arguments allowed.

 

[Silly Uncle Wayne]

Try agan. No strawman arguments allowed.

Well I didn't think it was a very good argument, but I didn't see a strawman. Can you enlighten me please.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Well I didn't think it was a very good argument, but I didn't see a strawman. Can you enlighten me please.

It as accurately described evolution as describing Christianity in a belief that "if you nail a guy to a tree you can live forever". Yes, Jesus was crucified, and we know that we all have a single celled ancestor. But portraying those facts dishonestly is not a proper way to refute an idea. Evolution, like it or not, is a fact. As a Christian one is actually claiming that God is a liar if one goes with a literal interpretation of Genesis. Creationists generally do not believe that God lied so the only way that they can argue against evolution is to totally distort what the theory says.

In fact if one claims that Genesis is literal then one must explain why God went out of his way to make it look as if all life was the product of evolution, including man, and why he tried to make it look as if the descent from Adam and Eve was impossible.

 

[Silly Uncle Wayne]

Evolution, like it or not, is a fact. As a Christian one is actually claiming that God is a liar if one goes with a literal interpretation of Genesis. Creationists generally do not believe that God lied so the only way that they can argue against evolution is to totally distort what the theory says.

Actually 'Evolution is a fact' may be completely untrue. It depends on what type of evolution you are talking about. Microevolution is a fact, but Macroevolution is a theory. A good one, but it is not a fact.

More importantly it is not falsifiable, which requires the repetition of the experiment and macroevolution is all about unique events that are not repeatable. So if you want it to be scientific, I have no problem, but it is not fact and it is definitely not falsifiable. Science is actually limited by falsifiability.

Creationists come in all shapes and sizes. I agree that YEC distort the theory, but not all creationists are YEC (the 'YE' bit should give that away). It is perfectly reasonable to hold to both creationism and macroevolution for example: a creator God creates evolution as the mechanism to achieve his creation.

Hawkins may have been a bit OTT, but it doesn't change the point being made that the particular processes pointed out are not falsifiable, and therefore the whole thing is not falsifiable: If the theory is made of straw, then it is a strawman .

PS: Science tells us that all of us can trace our ancestry back to one female. Sounds a bit like 'Eve' to me.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Actually 'Evolution is a fact' may be completely untrue. It depends on what type of evolution you are talking about. Microevolution is a fact, but Macroevolution is a theory. A good one, but it is not a fact.

More importantly it is not falsifiable, which requires the repetition of the experiment and macroevolution is all about unique events that are not repeatable. So if you want it to be scientific, I have no problem, but it is not fact and it is definitely not falsifiable. Science is actually limited by falsifiability.

Creationists come in all shapes and sizes. I agree that YEC distort the theory, but not all creationists are YEC (the 'YE' bit should give that away). It is perfectly reasonable to hold to both creationism and macroevolution for example: a creator God creates evolution as the mechanism to achieve his creation.

Hawkins may have been a bit OTT, but it doesn't change the point being made that the particular processes pointed out are not falsifiable, and therefore the whole thing is not falsifiable: If the theory is made of straw, then it is a strawman .

PS: Science tells us that all of us can trace our ancestry back to one female. Sounds a bit like 'Eve' to me.

You do not understand the concept of falsifiability. The theory is falsifiable since it makes specific predictions and if those predictions fail so does the theory. Macro and micro are poor terms to apply to evolution. By their proper definition both have been observed, but since it is all evolution and there is no boundary between the two they are not used much any longer. Lastly just as there is both a theory of gravity and gravity is a fact the same can be said about evolution.

As to mitochondrial Eve there were thousands of other female humans that lived along side her and she had ancestors as well. How does that match up to the Bible story?

 

[Daniel Marsh]

not challenging math or physics?...

I enjoyed the laugh friend.

https://www.history.com/topics/roaring-twenties/scopes-trial
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/monkey-trial-begins

YEC claim that young people are leaving the Churches because they thru being educated about Evolution they can no longer believe the Genesis account of Creation. YEC claims that if these young people can not believe the Creation Accounts than they will not trust rest of the Bible.

So, to maintain religious boundaries of their young people they feel that they must attack Evolution. They even can't deal with Old Earth Creationists or anyone who disagrees with their YEC model.

Thank God, you are not a Theistic Evolutionist. YEC I meet goes nuts on them.

 

[ximmix]

I enjoyed the laugh friend.

https://www.history.com/topics/roaring-twenties/scopes-trial
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/monkey-trial-begins

YEC claim that young people are leaving the Churches because they thru being educated about Evolution they can no longer believe the Genesis account of Creation. YEC claims that if these young people can not believe the Creation Accounts than they will not trust rest of the Bible.

So, to maintain religious boundaries of their young people they feel that they must attack Evolution. They even can't deal with Old Earth Creationists or anyone who disagrees with their YEC model.

Thank God, you are not a Theistic Evolutionist. YEC I meet goes nuts on them.

I don't think YEC matters. it all that chatter, inspired by the idiot in cheif
, and all his minions perpetuate he lies...

 

[Daniel Marsh]

Hundreds of studies verify the facts of evolution, at both the microevolutionary and macroevolutionary scale—from the origin of new traits and new species to the underpinnings of the complexity we see in life and the statistical probability of such complexity arising.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/

I do have a question.

Since, the cameras are on, What evolution from one species into another one have been documented? Why have humans not evolved into a higher class?

I am not sure of the science terms I used. It has been decades since I read a classroom science book.

All I know for sure is I am on planet earth and it was here before I got here. How God did it does not bother me. Since Moses was not at the day of creation, he had to get his information from somewhere. Be it a combo of using existing myths of the nations or revelation does not bother me. I like reading Ancient Near Eastern literature.

 

[ximmix]

Actually 'Evolution is a fact' may be completely untrue. It depends on what type of evolution you are talking about. Microevolution is a fact, but Macroevolution is a theory. A good one, but it is not a fact.

More importantly it is not falsifiable, which requires the repetition of the experiment and macroevolution is all about unique events that are not repeatable. So if you want it to be scientific, I have no problem, but it is not fact and it is definitely not falsifiable. Science is actually limited by falsifiability.

Creationists come in all shapes and sizes. I agree that YEC distort the theory, but not all creationists are YEC (the 'YE' bit should give that away). It is perfectly reasonable to hold to both creationism and macroevolution for example: a creator God creates evolution as the mechanism to achieve his creation.

Hawkins may have been a bit OTT, but it doesn't change the point being made that the particular processes pointed out are not falsifiable, and therefore the whole thing is not falsifiable: If the theory is made of straw, then it is a strawman .

PS: Science tells us that all of us can trace our ancestry back to one female. Sounds a bit like 'Eve' to me.

Of course, you have to do some real brain twisting to deny all the evidence...

 

[Daniel Marsh]

What makes you think that the theory of evolution is not falsifiable?

As an Amateur in relation to science, what would it take to falsify evolution?
Is evolution "always" from lesser to greater or does it go both directions?
Back when I was in college centuries ago, it was taught as always going to higher species or something like that.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

Of course, you have to do some real brain twisting to deny all the evidence...

How is the weather in Sweden today? Here in Michigan rain and 70.

 

[ximmix]

Actually 'Evolution is a fact' may be completely untrue. It depends on what type of evolution you are talking about. Microevolution is a fact, but Macroevolution is a theory. A good one, but it is not a fact.

More importantly it is not falsifiable, which requires the repetition of the experiment and macroevolution is all about unique events that are not repeatable. So if you want it to be scientific, I have no problem, but it is not fact and it is definitely not falsifiable. Science is actually limited by falsifiability.

Creationists come in all shapes and sizes. I agree that YEC distort the theory, but not all creationists are YEC (the 'YE' bit should give that away). It is perfectly reasonable to hold to both creationism and macroevolution for example: a creator God creates evolution as the mechanism to achieve his creation.

Hawkins may have been a bit OTT, but it doesn't change the point being made that the particular processes pointed out are not falsifiable, and therefore the whole thing is not falsifiable: If the theory is made of straw, then it is a strawman .

PS: Science tells us that all of us can trace our ancestry back to one female. Sounds a bit like 'Eve' to me.

You say a lot of things that are not true, i hope ur not lying, God doesn't like that very much.

"Not falsifiable" It absolutely is, that why is think ur a liar or an idiot.

PS: Science tells us that all of us can trace our ancestry back to one female. Sounds a bit like 'Eve' to me.

I love that. think about it. you have a mom. ur mom has a mom, and so it goes back into prehistory, even into our relatives...

 

[Silly Uncle Wayne]

that why is think ur a liar or an idiot.

Why only those things, why not misunderstood or mistaken or misinformed?

The way you say it makes you sound like a spoilt teenager.

 

[Silly Uncle Wayne]

PS: Science tells us that all of us can trace our ancestry back to one female. Sounds a bit like 'Eve' to me.

I love that. think about it. you have a mom. ur mom has a mom, and so it goes back into prehistory, even into our relatives...

Quote: "Even more impressive, the geneticists concluded that every person on Earth right now can trace his or her lineage back to a single common female ancestor who lived around 200,000 years ago. Because one entire branch of human lineage is of African origin and the other contains African lineage as well, the study's authors concluded Africa is the place where this woman lived. The scientists named this common female ancestor Mitochondrial Eve."