Why Do Wiccans Hate Christians?

[Arikay]

?
wasn't the question to you?

 

[SoulSearching]

?
wasn't the question to you?

Okay Arikay but I sure wanted to know what your answer was.

The question was "and where did these community courts get the idea that witchcraft was a killable offense?"

I think I know where you were heading with your question: Blame it on the Bible, correct???

I personally don't know where these community courts got their ideal. I'll explain why:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_burn2.htm

Circa 1550 to 1650 CE: Trials and executions reached a peak during these ten decades, which are often referred to as the "burning times." They were mostly concentrated in eastern France, Germany and Switzerland. Witch persecutions often occurred in areas where Catholics and Protestants were fighting. Contrary to public opinion, suspected witches -- particularly those involved in evil sorcery -- were mainly tried by secular courts. A minority were charged by church authorities; these were often cases involving the use of healing magic or midwifery.

I don't know how the cout systems were ran during the 1550 to 1650 in France, Germany, and Switzerland. Do you???

Some Bible History From---

http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/

Having God's Word available to the public in the language of the common man, English, would have meant disaster to the church. No longer would they control access to the scriptures. If people were able to read the Bible in their own tongue, the church's income and power would crumble. They could not possibly continue to get away with selling indulgences (the forgiveness of sins) or selling the release of loved ones from a church-manufactured "Purgatory". People would begin to challenge the church's authority if the church were exposed as frauds and thieves. The contradictions between what God's Word said, and what the priests taught, would open the public's eyes and the truth would set them free from the grip of fear that the institutional church held. Salvation through faith, not works or donations, would be understood. The need for priests would vanish through the priesthood of all believers. The veneration of church-canonized Saints and Mary would be called into question. The availability of the scriptures in English was the biggest threat imaginable to the wicked church. Neither side would give up without a fight.
Today, there are only two known copies left of Tyndale’s 1525-26 First Edition. Any copies printed prior to 1570 are extremely valuable. Tyndale's flight was an inspiration to freedom-loving Englishmen who drew courage from the 11 years that he was hunted. Books and Bibles flowed into England in bales of cotton and sacks of flour. Ironically, Tyndale’s biggest customer was the King’s men, who would buy up every copy available to burn them… and Tyndale used their money to print even more! In the end, Tyndale was caught: betrayed by an Englishman that he had befriended. Tyndale was incarcerated for 500 days before he was strangled and burned at the stake in 1536. Tyndale’s last words were, "Oh Lord, open the King of England’s eyes". This prayer would be answered just three years later in 1539, when King Henry VIII finally allowed, and even funded, the printing of an English Bible known as the “Great Bible”. But before that could happen… (For more see site)


As far as the Bible: Starting just one year after the huge 1611 pulpit-size King James Bibles were printed and chained to every church pulpit in England; printing then began on the earliest normal-size printings of the King James Bible. These were produced so individuals could have their own personal copy of the Bible.

The first English language Bible to be printed in America by Robert Aitken in 1782 was a King James Version.

So perhaps you might research to find out when France, Germany, & Switzerland had Bibles printed in their own language.

God Bless!
SoulSearching

 

[PistGurl]

we don't:
1. Sacrifice virgins
2. Drink goats blood
3. Stomp Kittens
4. Have orgies on all-hallows eve around a roaring bonfire
5. Juggle Human heads
6. Carry magic wands, and quote Harry Potter.
Smilin

I don't know about you, but I find having orgies round a bonfire to be really fun!

But not as a religious act!

(I do have a wand though, but obviously, is not used as is in HP)

Blessed Be xx

 

[Arikay]

Even if they were secular courts, it would be interesting to know where they got the idea that "witchcraft" was a killable offense.

Okay Arikay but I sure wanted to know what your answer was.

The question was "and where did these community courts get the idea that witchcraft was a killable offense?"

I think I know where you were heading with your question: Blame it on the Bible, correct???

I personally don't know where these community courts got their ideal. I'll explain why:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_burn2.htm

Circa 1550 to 1650 CE: Trials and executions reached a peak during these ten decades, which are often referred to as the "burning times." They were mostly concentrated in eastern France, Germany and Switzerland. Witch persecutions often occurred in areas where Catholics and Protestants were fighting. Contrary to public opinion, suspected witches -- particularly those involved in evil sorcery -- were mainly tried by secular courts. A minority were charged by church authorities; these were often cases involving the use of healing magic or midwifery.

I don't know how the cout systems were ran during the 1550 to 1650 in France, Germany, and Switzerland. Do you???

Some Bible History From---

http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/

Having God's Word available to the public in the language of the common man, English, would have meant disaster to the church. No longer would they control access to the scriptures. If people were able to read the Bible in their own tongue, the church's income and power would crumble. They could not possibly continue to get away with selling indulgences (the forgiveness of sins) or selling the release of loved ones from a church-manufactured "Purgatory". People would begin to challenge the church's authority if the church were exposed as frauds and thieves. The contradictions between what God's Word said, and what the priests taught, would open the public's eyes and the truth would set them free from the grip of fear that the institutional church held. Salvation through faith, not works or donations, would be understood. The need for priests would vanish through the priesthood of all believers. The veneration of church-canonized Saints and Mary would be called into question. The availability of the scriptures in English was the biggest threat imaginable to the wicked church. Neither side would give up without a fight.
Today, there are only two known copies left of Tyndale’s 1525-26 First Edition. Any copies printed prior to 1570 are extremely valuable. Tyndale's flight was an inspiration to freedom-loving Englishmen who drew courage from the 11 years that he was hunted. Books and Bibles flowed into England in bales of cotton and sacks of flour. Ironically, Tyndale’s biggest customer was the King’s men, who would buy up every copy available to burn them… and Tyndale used their money to print even more! In the end, Tyndale was caught: betrayed by an Englishman that he had befriended. Tyndale was incarcerated for 500 days before he was strangled and burned at the stake in 1536. Tyndale’s last words were, "Oh Lord, open the King of England’s eyes". This prayer would be answered just three years later in 1539, when King Henry VIII finally allowed, and even funded, the printing of an English Bible known as the “Great Bible”. But before that could happen… (For more see site)


As far as the Bible: Starting just one year after the huge 1611 pulpit-size King James Bibles were printed and chained to every church pulpit in England; printing then began on the earliest normal-size printings of the King James Bible. These were produced so individuals could have their own personal copy of the Bible.

The first English language Bible to be printed in America by Robert Aitken in 1782 was a King James Version.

So perhaps you might research to find out when France, Germany, & Switzerland had Bibles printed in their own language.

God Bless!
SoulSearching

 

[Mylinkay Asdara]

Soul Searching... I don't mean to point fingers so please don't take it as such, but much hatred or nastiness if we shall avoid the word hatred because it is so strong is coming from your own posts which are argumentitive and toned in a disrespectful manner.

Before thy neighbor look to thyself... isn't that something along the lines of what is suggested by your holy book?

 

[Nathan David]

I see you've shifted the goalposts. I'm still waiting for examples of Wiccans expressing hatred towards Christians.

 

[PistGurl]

I see you've shifted the goalposts. I'm still waiting for examples of Wiccans expressing hatred towards Christians.

You're probably going to be waiting a long time--as it has already been said, it is clear that we do not!

In 11 pages, there is not one post from a Wiccan hating a Christian, and if you wait for 11 more, you will find the same.

There are Wiccans out there who hate Christians, there will always be people who hate other people, but this does not represent Wicca as a whole. These hate filled people will probably not post here, as they will not think to come onto a Christian forum...think about it.

Blessed Be xx

 

[ydouxist]

I led a satanist to the Lord once.

I didn't hate him before he got saved.

If I did I probably wouldn't have bothered talking to him.

 

[SoulSearching]

Soul Searching... I don't mean to point fingers so please don't take it as such, but much hatred or nastiness if we shall avoid the word hatred because it is so strong is coming from your own posts which are argumentitive and toned in a disrespectful manner.

Before thy neighbor look to thyself... isn't that something along the lines of what is suggested by your holy book?

Mylinkay, you have a right to your opinion and I don't fault you for that.

If I came off as disrespectful, I apologize!

I don't know if I would agree with argumentitve. After all this is a discussion/debate/fellowship etc... forum.

Since you meantioned the "Holy Book" Is this what your talking about?

Matthew 7:4-5
4: Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me remove the speck from your eye'; and look, a plank is in your own eye?
5: Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

God Bless!
SoulSearching

 

[SoulSearching]

You're probably going to be waiting a long time--as it has already been said, it is clear that we do not!

In 11 pages, there is not one post from a Wiccan hating a Christian, and if you wait for 11 more, you will find the same.

There are Wiccans out there who hate Christians, there will always be people who hate other people, but this does not represent Wicca as a whole. These hate filled people will probably not post here, as they will not think to come onto a Christian forum...think about it.

Blessed Be xx

I think Any Day Now sums it up pretty well. People look for a reason to hate: False information about "The Burning Times" does not help and I've already covered that topic.

why do wiccans hate christians? This is not onesided, remember the events 300 years ago that lead to many deaths of not only wiccans/pagans/occultists, but many non participants of these faiths.

Religion was created to divide and rule. By creating hate and fear,

Correct me if I'm wrong but do these things upset wiccans, pagans, Shamans, and so forth --- to claim absolute truth, trying to convert, talking about hell, sin, Jesus Christ, and using Bible scriptures??? Feel free to add or take away from this list if you or others can think of anything else.

God Bless!
SoulSearching

 

[PistGurl]

Yes, they do, but it does not give them a reason to HATE Christians...and as I said before, the few Wiccans that do HATE Christians will not come onto a Christian website, will they?

Therefore you will get no posts from Wiccans who hate Christians, so as I said in my last post

In 11 pages there is not one post from a Wiccan hating a Christian, and if you wait for 11 more, you will find the same

You'll see when this thread is closed.

Blessed Be xx

 

[Kira Faye]

People hate people, religion doesn't wiccans do not hate christians, some people who practice wicca migth dislike christians............btu when u think about christians hating wiccans and wiccans hating christinas..........they wouldn;t be true to their religion because both teach tolerance and love...........just some people who aren't encompassing these lessons are screwing it and givign false perception.

 

[PistGurl]

Cos I need to thank you for your reasonable and balanced post, and I hope that no-one else comes on and starts saying

'Yeah, but some Wiccans hate Christians, Why?'

Please don't, enough people have said the same thing now, and it does not need to be said again

Blessed Be xx