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Why do whales have legs & pelvic bones separated from the rest of their skeletons?

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And they have hands!
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Why do whales have legs & pelvic bones separated from the rest of their skeletons?

Evolution-deniers: The Theory of Evolution explains this evidence quite well. What is your alternative explanation for such evidence?

Because God made them that way!

Because God used a basic blueprint for all mammals (he is frugal like that)!

I AM NOT A MONKEY!!!!!
 
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Because God made them that way!

Because God used a basic blueprint for all mammals (he is frugal like that)!

I AM NOT A MONKEY!!!!!

He gave whales pointless back legs out of frugality? Looks like either laziness or incompetence to me...
 
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One thing I don't understand, why would what I am affect who I am?
It seems to me that's pretty much what seems to be the problem.
That's something often used as dramatic clichés in stories but no matter how many times I see variations of that concept, it's still irrational.

Edit: This in response to post #7.
 
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Why do whales have legs & pelvic bones separated from the rest of their skeletons?

Evolution-deniers: The Theory of Evolution explains this evidence quite well. What is your alternative explanation for such evidence?

Short answer: they don't.
Ignoring for the moment the purely anecdotal nature of the evidence, what is it that is being claimed? Sperm whales are massive—up to about 19m (62 feet) long. A 14 cm (5.5 inch) ‘bump’ on its side would look like an almost unnoticeable pimple. Inside the bump is a piece of bone, some 12.5 cm (5 inches) ‘long.’ There is no evidence given of anything which could reasonably be called a ‘leg.’ Slijper calls the bone inside the ‘bump’ a ‘tibia.’ But we have already seen that it doesn’t take much for evolutionary believers to label abnormal pieces of bone in ways to fit their naturalistic religion.

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Short answer: they don't.


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The author of your article casually states that "some modern whales have a pair of bones embedded in their tissues, each of which strengthens the pelvic wall and acts as an organ anchor".

Do you have any respectable studies which back up these assertions? Actually, please tell me what an 'organ anchor' is.
 
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Why do whales have legs & pelvic bones separated from the rest of their skeletons?

Evolution-deniers: The Theory of Evolution explains this evidence quite well. What is your alternative explanation for such evidence?
Short answer: they don't.
Ignoring for the moment the purely anecdotal nature of the evidence, what is it that is being claimed? Sperm whales are massive—up to about 19m (62 feet) long. A 14 cm (5.5 inch) ‘bump’ on its side would look like an almost unnoticeable pimple. Inside the bump is a piece of bone, some 12.5 cm (5 inches) ‘long.’ There is no evidence given of anything which could reasonably be called a ‘leg.’ Slijper calls the bone inside the ‘bump’ a ‘tibia.’ But we have already seen that it doesn’t take much for evolutionary believers to label abnormal pieces of bone in ways to fit their naturalistic religion.

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The author of your article casually states that "some modern whales have a pair of bones embedded in their tissues, each of which strengthens the pelvic wall and acts as an organ anchor".

Do you have any respectable studies which back up these assertions? Actually, please tell me what an 'organ anchor' is.
How about I just stick with the short answer, and not fall for these bait-and-explain threads?
 
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Sounds like you've run out of answers

How many answers do you want?

I know the moon, for example, has six different answers; but that's science for you.
 
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How about I just stick with the short answer, and not fall for these bait-and-explain threads?

Here's the deal. When it comes to the truth, there is no such thing as a "bait and explain" or "bait and ridicule" question. If you knew the truth, if you had the evidence... you would just present it and there would be no "bait" to it. This kind of question is asked to demonstrate that you do not understand the truth. The question points out any lack of understanding.

If you have an answer, then this question has no "bait". If you don't, then accept that your position may be poor.
 
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Let's see the peer reviewed scientific literature.

Isn't it interesting that none of you ... scientists are stepping up to answer the OP?

It's a scientific question, isn't it?

And how about you walk your talk and [be the first to] answer the OP with peer-reviewed scientific literature, yourself?
 
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