Why do we look so much like apes?

[Notedstrangeperson]

Silly boy---I used to be a dialysis tech for 20 years--I was a resp. Therapist for 7. I also ran 2 restaurants and and cooked in others. I'm on disability now, 20 years of pushing a dialysis machine around took a tole!!

And I'm a nobel-prize winning astrophysicist with my own chain of hotels in the south of France.

Funny how the people who reject science the most seem to have so much education. Speaking of which ...

No problem: give me the names identifying each skull and the bio background of each and I will tell you which are apes and which are human. All I need is the necessary information and this can be done.

So you can't tell which skulls are human and which are apes simply by looking at them?

 

[Skitsskat]

Or why do apes look so much like us? Harharhar.

 

[Kirkwhisper]

And I'm a nobel-prize winning astrophysicist with my own chain of hotels in the south of France.

Funny how the people who reject science the most seem to have so much education. Speaking of which ...


So you can't tell which skulls are human and which are apes simply by looking at them?

Most of them, yes. Now please supply the requested information and I will break them down one at a time.

Jase, I am still waiting.

P.S. Observe: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Now observe this:

And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image...

Is anything plainer? But the theistic evolutionists ignore the obvious import of this.

 

[Notedstrangeperson]

Most of them, yes. Now please supply the requested information and I will break them down one at a time.

I know your question was directed at Jase but would you mind answering my own example?

From left to right: Homo Habilis; Homo Erectus; Homo Sapiens​

Homo Habilis 'Handy Man'
Lived: 2.3 - 1.6 million years ago (mya)
Brain Size: 600cc average

Homo Erectus 'Upright Man'
Lived: 1.5 mya - 500,000 years ago
Brain Size: 850 - 1,100cc

Homo Sapien 'Wise Man' (Modern humans)
Lived: 200,000 - Today
Brain Size: 1,450cc average
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Which one of these were human?

 

[Assyrian]

So you can't tell which skulls are human and which are apes simply by looking at them?

apparently not

 

[Kirkwhisper]

I know your question was directed at Jase but would you mind answering my own example?

From left to right: Homo Habilis; Homo Erectus; Homo Sapiens​

Homo Habilis 'Handy Man'
Lived: 2.3 - 1.6 million years ago (mya)
Brain Size: 600cc average

Homo Erectus 'Upright Man'
Lived: 1.5 mya - 500,000 years ago
Brain Size: 850 - 1,100cc

Homo Sapien 'Wise Man' (Modern humans)
Lived: 200,000 - Today
Brain Size: 1,450cc average
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Which one of these were human?

Homo habilis: a species of ape similar to australopithecus
Quote: "Femur KNM-ER 1472. This femur is no different from that of modern man. The finding of this fossil in the same layer as Homo habilis fossils, although a few kilometers away, gave rise to incorrect opinions, such as that Homo habilis was bipedal. Fossil OH 62, found in 1987, showed that Homo habilis was not bipedal, as had been believed. Many scientists today accept that Homo habilis was a species of ape very similar to Australopithecus" (from Darwinism Refuted).

Homo erectus: surely you jest. That's a man.
Quote: "Far from dismissing erectus forms as being only large extinct apes or frauds, the pendulum is now swinging to the view that most, if not all erectus specimens are indeed full members of the human race. With the discovery of the Turkana “Boy” WT 15000 in 1984 in Kenya, it is no longer possible to hold to the position that Homo erectus was only a large-brained pongid." (from AIG)

Homo Sapien: Human. I could regard this as an insult that you would even ask to begin with.

Now you answer my question and don't equivocate like your Darwinist buddies have been throughout this controversy: give the genetic formula for the so-called change of ape-like common ancestors to humans. Please give each of them step-by-step.

Next, answer what I have posted twice on this thread:

Observe: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Now observe this:

And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image...

So was he talking about this image:

Or this?

 

[Notedstrangeperson]

Homo habilis: a species of ape similar to australopithecus
Quote: "Femur KNM-ER 1472. This femur is no different from that of modern man. The finding of this fossil in the same layer as Homo habilis fossils, although a few kilometers away, gave rise to incorrect opinions, such as that Homo habilis was bipedal. Fossil OH 62, found in 1987, showed that Homo habilis was not bipedal, as had been believed. Many scientists today accept that Homo habilis was a species of ape very similar to Australopithecus" (from Darwinism Refuted).

Homo erectus: surely you jest. That's a man.
Quote: "Far from dismissing erectus forms as being only large extinct apes or frauds, the pendulum is now swinging to the view that most, if not all erectus specimens are indeed full members of the human race. With the discovery of the Turkana “Boy” WT 15000 in 1984 in Kenya, it is no longer possible to hold to the position that Homo erectus was only a large-brained pongid." (from AIG)

Homo Sapien: Human. I could regard this as an insult that you would even ask to begin with.

Now you answer my question and don't equivocate like your Darwinist buddies have been throughout this controversy: give the genetic formula for the so-called change of ape-like common ancestors to humans. Please give each of them step-by-step.

Thanks for answering my questions. But for the record, did you base your answers on the information given (when they lived, their brain size etc.) or did you base them on the picture I posted?

 

[Kirkwhisper]

Thanks for answering my questions. But for the record, did you base your answers on the information given (when they lived, their brain size etc.) or did you base them on the picture I posted?

This is what you asked for:

Homo Habilis 'Handy Man'
Lived: 2.3 - 1.6 million years ago (mya)
Brain Size: 600cc average

Homo Erectus 'Upright Man'
Lived: 1.5 mya - 500,000 years ago
Brain Size: 850 - 1,100cc

Homo Sapien 'Wise Man' (Modern humans)
Lived: 200,000 - Today
Brain Size: 1,450cc average

As far as your pictures, I NEVER trust what TE's say about photos nor do I EVER trust artwork made by evolutionists of any stripe.

Now answer the questions I posed to you or there won't be another response to you on this subject.

 

[Notedstrangeperson]

As far as your pictures, I NEVER trust what TE's say about photos nor do I EVER trust artwork made by evolutionists of any stripe.

So just to confirm what I said earlier, you cannot tell whether these specimens were human or not by looking at their skulls?

Now answer the questions I posed to you or there won't be another response to you on this subject.

You didn't post a question, you posted Bible quotes. And I doubt you won't answer.

 

[Kirkwhisper]

Next.

 

[Notedstrangeperson]

Next.

You sound like the surly cashier at Tescos.

Incidently I'm currently speaking to two other creationists: one contends that Homo Erectus was fully human, the other contends it was just an ape. They both use anatomical evidence to support their opinions. Why do you think Homo Erectus was fully human?

Incidently these skulls ...

All three were modern humans. Guess you can't tell what traits are required to be considered 'human'.

 

[Kirkwhisper]

You sound like the surly cashier at Tescos.

Incidently I'm currently speaking to two other creationists: one contends that Homo Erectus was fully human, the other contends it was just an ape. They both use anatomical evidence to support their opinions. Why do you think Homo Erectus was fully human?

Incidently these skulls ...

All three were modern humans. Guess you can't tell what traits are required to be considered 'human'.

I knew he would do this. I caught him dead cold in a dishonesty. I went by what he printed, not the picture. That's why I said what I did above.

Notedstrangeperson now joins Assyrian, Papias, & a few others in the realm of non-existence.

 

[mathetes123]

Not sure where to put this but I'll try posting it here. This is something I've been wondering about forever. If God created the animals and us seperately and there's no evolution, why do we look so much like apes?

Because we had a common designer.

 

[Kirkwhisper]

Because we had a common designer.

The best answer yet.

Same reason that this:

hyena

...looked so similar to this:

thylacine

One is of the family Hyaenidae & the other is a marsupial.

But they both have a common Creator.

 

[ViaCrucis]

The best answer yet.

Same reason that this:

hyena

...looked so similar to this:

thylacine

One is of the family Hyaenidae & the other is a marsupial.

But they both have a common Creator.

Yes. That's true. And that Creator--the Holy Trinity--used the natural mechanisms which He Himself placed into the natural order in order for both of these organisms to evolve similar traits. What we call convergent evolution.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Notedstrangeperson]

I knew he would do this. I caught him dead cold in a dishonesty. I went by what he printed, not the picture. That's why I said what I did above.

Notedstrangeperson now joins Assyrian, Papias, & a few others in the realm of non-existence.

At least you now have a legitimate reason for putting me on your ignore list. But contrary to what you may think, things aren't non-extistent just because you don't believe in them. Even atheists know this.

 

[Kirkwhisper]

Yes. That's true. And that Creator--the Holy Trinity--used the natural mechanisms which He Himself placed into the natural order in order for both of these organisms to evolve similar traits. What we call convergent evolution.

-CryptoLutheran

There is no evolution. Period.

But since you differ with that: give the genetic formula for the transformation and branching of each organism that resulted in (a) hyenas, and (b) thylacines.

Good luck.

 

[Kirkwhisper]

Now to answer Jases challenge (I never heard back from Jase whom I asked to give me the identification and bio of each skull so I had to track them down myself)

(A thru F) Australopithecines (D thru F) classified as Habilines, but the taxonomic classification is tentative. Faulty & biased reconstructions gave them a more human-like flat face, which also places them in the genus Australopticus (G) is H. georgicus. It has no characteristics that can place it in the genus Homo, although paleontologists are cherry picking features to try & place it as intermediate between Homo habilis & Homo erectus. (H-N) are conclusively in the genus Homo & included Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, Homo heidelbergensis, Homo rhodesiensis, Cro-Magnon, and Homo sapiens sapiens, all of which are variations within our own species.

I am still waiting for you to answer my subsequent questions, Jase.

Transitional Fossils of Hominid Skulls

 

[Assyrian]

I knew he would do this. I caught him dead cold in a dishonesty. I went by what he printed, not the picture. That's why I said what I did above.

Notedstrangeperson now joins Assyrian, Papias, & a few others in the realm of non-existence.

Terribly dishonest you would never see a man of God pull a trick like that.

1Kings 20:37 Then he found another man and said, "Strike me, please." And the man struck him--struck him and wounded him.
38 So the prophet departed and waited for the king by the way, disguising himself with a bandage over his eyes.
39 And as the king passed, he cried to the king and said, "Your servant went out into the midst of the battle, and behold, a soldier turned and brought a man to me and said, 'Guard this man; if by any means he is missing, your life shall be for his life, or else you shall pay a talent of silver.'
40 And as your servant was busy here and there, he was gone." The king of Israel said to him, "So shall your judgment be; you yourself have decided it."
41 Then he hurried to take the bandage away from his eyes, and the king of Israel recognized him as one of the prophets.
42 And he said to him, "Thus says the LORD, 'Because you have let go out of your hand the man whom I had devoted to destruction, therefore your life shall be for his life, and your people for his people.'"
43 And the king of Israel went to his house vexed and sullen and came to Samaria.

2Samuel 12:1 And the LORD sent Nathan to David. He came to him and said to him, "There were two men in a certain city, the one rich and the other poor.
2 The rich man had very many flocks and herds,
3 but the poor man had nothing but one little ewe lamb, which he had bought. And he brought it up, and it grew up with him and with his children. It used to eat of his morsel and drink from his cup and lie in his arms, and it was like a daughter to him.
4 Now there came a traveller to the rich man, and he was unwilling to take one of his own flock or herd to prepare for the guest who had come to him, but he took the poor man's lamb and prepared it for the man who had come to him."
5 Then David's anger was greatly kindled against the man, and he said to Nathan, "As the LORD lives, the man who has done this deserves to die,
6 and he shall restore the lamb fourfold, because he did this thing, and because he had no pity."
7 Nathan said to David, "You are the man!

Apparently, you are the man, who can't tell an ape skull from human by looking at it.

 

[Kirkwhisper]

Anyone with perception & a degree of honesty should be able see through the deceitfulness of them.