Sure, Christians can protect their families, but I don't believe that means Christians or any other average citizens should own assault weapons that are more suited to a battlefield than a home.
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Are Christians not to protect themselves and their families?
I have read where people do share passages to further their position in a discussion. What I am pointing out is that you introduced this particular passage, Romans 14, and are now backtracking on its meaning as pertains to your position.Yes ? .... It was in answer to your question as you probably know.
And other Scriptures in other threads, as have many people.....
I have read where people do share passages to further their position in a discussion. What I am pointing out is that you introduced this particular passage, Romans 14, and are now backtracking on its meaning as pertains to your position.
Why do some followers of the Prince of Peace think it is more important to protect the right of someone to buy an assault rifle than it is to protect the rights of people to not be shot by a stranger?
The point of my statement being, gun control was very strict in France and yet that had nothing to do with stopping firearm massacres in France.
If gun control laws worked to stop violence we would never read of a single incident of mass murder using firearms in any country where strict gun control laws are in place.
Why do some followers of the Prince of Peace think it is more important to protect the right of someone to buy an assault rifle than it is to protect the rights of people to not be shot by a stranger?
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I once again find myself asking this sort of question. I support some gun ownership - for hunting, for sport. But some guns just should not be available to civilians. It is mind boggling to me that so many - including some Christians - can not admit this to be true.
The problem is not with any one ideology or religion or even mental illness; the problem is with us. Until we, as fellow Americans, can stand up & petition for something to change - to "fight the good fight" - we will continue on this path where mass shootings are the norm. How can we be shocked when these things happen, at an elementary school or a church or a club? Until things change, these mass shootings will continue. Any one of us could be the victim.
My personal plea? Pray, of course, but not just pray. Act.
Write your senator, your representative. Donate, campaign. Whatever you think you should do. Let's be peacemakers.
The people that read member remarks here can only go by what the member stated. Interjecting insolence that is directed toward respondents is not helpful. And it does not serve to erase the the insolent one's own ill conceived remarks.Hi CC,
You responded:
See, that's exactly what I'm talking about. You try to show people that other nations have found a better way. The person you're talking to then comes up with some explanation that on Mars there's this thing that happened and so that means none of your claims are true or your effort will make any difference.
I DIDN'T SAY THAT STRICT FIREARMS CONTROLS WAS GOING TO STOP ANYONE FROM EVER DYING BY FIREARM HOMICIDE!!!!!!!!!
Yes, there are still going to be people that get past the effort, but not as often. My claim here is not that strict firearms regulations will stop any and all homicide by firearms death. My claim here is that it does greatly reduce the total number. Yes, the Charlie Hebdo and other few firearms homicides that France has had are certainly terrible events, but...
They don't have those events with anywhere near the regularity that we do. Their total homicide by firearms rate per 100,000 people is .21. That's point 21. That's less than 1//4th of 1 percent. By contrast our homicide by firearms rate stands at 3.43 per 100,000 people. Friend, do the math!!!! Even with their every once in a while firearms death; even with the Charlie Hebdo incident, the French enjoy a homicide firearms death rate that is 14 times less than ours. For every one of those deaths at the Charlie Hebdo paper, 14 people died in the U.S./100,000 people.
Let me repeat for those who just don't seem to be able to grasp simple explanations, I'm not bringing all this up because I think that stricter firearms controls will STOP homicides by firearms completely and absolutely and bring our rate to zero. I don't think that such a dream is even possible, but I'd be more than happy to listen to anyone who thinks that they have a plan for that, that is feasible.
So, please, get a thinking cap. The fact that in Paris there was a mass murder perpetrated with men who used firearms has absolutely no bearing on the intent of the discussion at hand. All I'm hoping to do is bring our homicide by firearms rate down under 1% or .5%. Do I expect that there will still be people who die in the U.S. by firearms under such restrictions? Yes!!! Absolutely!!! I've read the Scriptures. Man's heart is wicked! Who can know it?
God bless you.
In Christ, Ted
Right, well, then people will just keep dyin' round here.
God bless you.
In Christ, Ted
Now is the time. I just can't fathom why people think there is any reason automatic assault rifles should be legal. What are they used for other than mass shootings?
Never did.The meaning of Romans 14 ? Just what do you think Romans 14 means ?
(I still think, as always, it means exactly what God says it means: never changed what I said -- why did you ? )
If gun control laws worked to stop violence
....(then)..........we would never read of a single incident of mass murder using firearms
........................................in any country where strict gun control laws are in place.
....
Shalom Ted:
That's simply and IF - THEN Conditional Statement
How could it not be true ?
"You really believe that's the truth, don't you?
God bless you.
In Christ, Ted"
Have you read about "people" even just in the Bible ?Now is the time. I just can't fathom why people think there is any reason automatic assault rifles should be legal. What are they used for other than mass shootings?
Fine with me.... there was never anything between us to finish.Never did.
This discussion is now decidedly unhealthy. I shall consider it finished between us.
This may have already been said but I believe the 2nd Amdendment is the most vulnerable one we have, especially in today's atmosphere. My concern is if you can essentially nullify the 2nd by legislation/court opinion then the rest of the Amendments also become vulnerable. If we get to the point where the 2nd can be "ignored" what happens when religion offends someone?....Limit what can be preached. The press offends politicians?..... muzzle them. Don't like protests?....arrest them. People may say that will never happen? Look at the 10th Amendment: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." The federal govt. has grabbed all the power it can.....and it is not stopping here.Hi G&P,
Fear and pride.
God bless you.
In Christ, Ted
Perhaps you are right - let's test something . (re "the most vulnerable one we have") ...This may have already been said but I believe the 2nd Amdendment is the most vulnerable one we have, especially in today's atmosphere. ,,,,,The federal govt. has grabbed all the power it can.....and it is not stopping here.
Who is advocating for automatic rifles? Semi- Auto, yeah.....might want to learn the difference....Now is the time. I just can't fathom why people think there is any reason automatic assault rifles should be legal. What are they used for other than mass shootings?
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