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Why do people like Seventh-day Adventist and Adventist doctrine?

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Gerhard Ebersoehn

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I went to a church to please a friend that worshipped on a saturday. Two people were laughing freely as they took the Lords name in vain.
In over fifty years of going to various churches I had never come accross such a thing. I was left with the distinct impression theirs and my Christianity was totally different, to put it mildly
Doubtless you believe that law had not yet been placed within them

God, abdicate your seat! The true judge is taking over as from today!
 
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You cant do it can you. You cant provide a single verse of scripture from anywhere in the NT( covenant) that states gentile believers must observe a specific saturday sabbath

Try the words of the LORD
Isaiah 66:22-24 King James Version (KJV)
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

I believe the Lord when he said all flesh which would include Gentiles.
 
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Try the words of the LORD
Isaiah 66:22-24 King James Version (KJV)
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

I believe the Lord when he said all flesh which would include Gentiles.
Your desperation is showing. As you have not one verse of scripture from the entire NT( covenant) that states your demands there is nothing to discuss. I have the plain scripture, scripture you have no choice but to do gymnastics with in order to make the demands you do.
I'll leave you to it.
Just to say, as you insist on following the written code rather than the Holy Spirit you will never understand the fulness of the NC, for you have shunned the one who leads into truth in order to follow the written code
 
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Thank goodness I'm non denominational... I just believe what's in the book. To me its just that simple.
Your simple faith in the book will lead you into far more truth that matters, than the scholar and academic will ever know
 
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Your desperation is showing. As you have not one verse of scripture from the entire NT( covenant) that states your demands there is nothing to discuss. I have the plain scripture, scripture you have no choice but to do gymnastics with in order to make the demands you do.
I'll leave you to it.
Just to say, as you insist on following the written code rather than the Holy Spirit you will never understand the fulness of the NC, for you have shunned the one who leads into truth in order to follow the written code

So you disregard the old testament. Yet Jesus said
John 5:39
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

The word of our Lord said that by searching the old testament you have eternal life.

But you are indicating that without the NC you are lost.

I will take the word of the LORD over yours.
 
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But you are indicating that without the NC you are lost
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I mean, I know you people try and live under a version of the old covenant at heart. But to come right out and write what you have...
I'm amazed you have so forthrightly confirmed what I have more than once stated.
I say this most sincerely
Thank you
 
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Rom 14:5 means what it plainly states.
You do not have one verse of scripture from the entire NT that states gentile believers must observe a specific saturday Sabbath. NOT ONE!!

You answered a question with a question.
How about you answer the question with scripture that supports your interpretation. I am waiting to hear from you before you do to me as you have done to others who challenge you and you quit communicating with them,
 
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You answered a question with a question.
How about you answer the question with scripture that supports your interpretation. I am waiting to hear from you before you do to me as you have done to others who challenge you and you quit communicating with them,
You might want to live under the OC but I live under the new one. You haven't got any scripture from the NC to back up your errant demands.
Still, that won't bother you, as you believe you are not lost without the NC!
 
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You cannot defend your position is that the farce you are referring to
It is you that cannot scripturally defend your position from the NT( covenant) I of course can!

But the NC is not really your concern I it!
 
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It is you that cannot scripturally defend your position from the NT( covenant) I of course can!

But the NC is not really your concern I it!

I live by this verse

4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Your insistence on only the new testament being the only source proves that you do not believe this NT scripture above.

I have asked you to defend your position on several issue but you do not reply. So please do not say "I of course can" because that has not been proven by you.

Lets try again. Do you believe that the old testament is the word of GOD?
 
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6 But now Jesus has obtained a superior ministry, since the covenant that he mediates is also better and is enacted on better promises. 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, no one would have looked for a second one. 8 But showing its fault, God says to them, “Look, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will complete a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. 9 “It will not be like the covenant that I made with their fathers, on the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they did not continue in my covenant and I had no regard for them, says the Lord. 10 “For this is the covenant that I will establish with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and I will inscribe them on their hearts. And I will be their God and they will be my people. 11 “And there will be no need at all for each one to teach his countryman or each one to teach his brother saying, Know the Lord, since they will all know me, from the least to the greatest. 12 “For I will be merciful toward their evil deeds, and their sins I will remember no longer.” 13 When he speaks of a new covenant, he makes the first obsolete. Now what is growing obsolete and aging is about to disappear.1
 
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