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Why do other Christians hate Calvinist so much?

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Osage Bluestem

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Romans 9:20-24 ESV
20 But who are you, O man, ato answer back to God? bWill what is molded say to its molder, &#8220;Why have you made me like this?&#8221; 21 cHas the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump done vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? 22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience evessels of wrath fprepared for destruction, 23 in order to make known gthe riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he hhas prepared beforehand for glory&#8212;24 even us whom he ihas called, jnot from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?
 
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German Guy said:
certainaly, but the non believer doesn't glorify the Lord, nor does the Lords Glory entertain the thoughts of the un-saved.

Irrelevant. (and learn to quote. It makes things easier to follow).
 
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I guess sone assume that God's glory is dependent upon His creation.

Absolutely not. God will be glorified in everything and everyone. ;)
His glory for our joy. I like it the way one pastor puts it, which is just a rephrase of one verse from the Bible (don't know which).

"God is the most glorified in us when we are the most satisfied in Him."

Of course I want God to be glorified! He is the biggest value there is, and if He wanted us to glorify someone or something He created, what would He tell about Himself? Also, He who did not spare His own Son but gave Him up for us freely, how will He not with Him give us all things? :D

See the pattern? The supremacy of God in everything, His glorification is the best for us! That is how much He loves us! :) :thumbsup:
 
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His glory for our joy. I like it the way one pastor puts it, which is just a rephrase of one verse from the Bible (don't know which).

"God is the most glorified in us when we are the most satisfied in Him."

John Piper

"God is the most glorified in us when we are the most satisfied in Him, in the midst of loss, not prosperity."



John Piper and the Prosperity Gospel - YouTube
 
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German Guy said:
I was not quoting anyone. Only relaying my thoughts. ;)

You need to quote the person you are conversing with, as I have done in this post. That way others can follow the conversation, and we know who you are addressing.
 
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German Guy said:
is that the QR button? for quoting.

That's one way. Click it and it will take you to the comment box. When your comments post, so will the other persons comment. Give it a shot.
 
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John Piper

"God is the most glorified in us when we are the most satisfied in Him, in the midst of loss, not prosperity."

Amen to that! I've been listening to his sermons for many months now and I gotta admit, God centeredness of them has shaken and turned upside down every single atom of pride in me. Later; actually a few months ago; I found out that he is a Calvinist preacher. And that's awesome, and I will never force the title upon anyone. :)
 
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No one said they were happy, no one said it was a big party. The part that you dont seem to understand is that those who are in hell hate God, they despise God and their hearts are anything but repetant towards the God who is punishing them for their sins.

Just like the man who gets caught in his crime will do anything to avoid jail but will do nothing to change his ways, he is only sorry for getting caught in his crime just as those who are in hell are only sorry because of where their sin got them to in the end.

But go ahead, keep on twisting the point because your an entertaining guy to debate with. Its just too bad that you dont know what your talking about.
ha ha ha thanks Robs! you have a way of insulting me yet keeping me smiling at the same time, you' seem to be under the impression everyone other than the elect hate God, but according to scripture when we see God metting out justice in the end, it would appear some just didn't know Him, In fact there are tons of athiest right here at this websight that would tell you they don't hate God, and they would follow Him if you could prove His existance to them. I was one of them, I didn't hate God, I just didn't believe in Him, which according to scripture is all that is needed to be excluded from the kingdom of heaven
 
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ha ha ha thanks Robs! you have a way of insulting me yet keeping me smiling at the same time, you' seem to be under the impression everyone other than the elect hate God, but according to scripture when we see God metting out justice in the end, it would appear some just didn't know Him, In fact there are tons of athiest right here at this websight that would tell you they don't hate God, and they would follow Him if you could prove His existance to them. I was one of them, I didn't hate God, I just didn't believe in Him, which according to scripture is all that is needed to be excluded from the kingdom of heaven

Aren't you assuming that disbelief is passive non-action?

It seems that unbelief is outright rebellion.

The command to repent and believe is a command, an imperative. It is not a well wish or a suggestion.

To not do those things is to spit in God's face, say he's unjust for commanding such a thing, rebel, disobey, etc.

That's not "neutrality", that's hate!

Further, the bible says that all fallen people are hostile to God, enemies of God, haters of God. Not that people are neutral towards God.
 
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I just want to give caution to some. The Bible warns we will be judged for every careless word out of our mouth. It has been shown that many times those claiming to know truth are deceived. I just advise against saying G-D is this or that simply because you think an interpretation of the Bible is correct. This thread seems more about you being right in your interpretation, and the other being wrong, than it is about honoring G-D and the depths of His wisdom that none can fathom. Please watch your words to one another, speaking in patience and love. There is little fruits of the Spirit here, so I am withdrawing. Blessings to you all.
 
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