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Why do intellectually superior humans have around 7,000 distinct languages?

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I am INCREDIBLY hesitant to say that is solid evidence for the Tower of Babel existing, especially it only shows that a large tower (well, ziggurat actually. Babylonians didn't really build stand-alone towers as such) was built, and not one that was built by all peoples in the world who spoke the same language.
But, I will grant you, it is definitely something more insightful than anything else I've been given, so I will give it a thumbs up.
 
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Yeah surely the Babyls built a tower or two.

But the same one as when everyone on earth spoke the same language???
Depends how far back you want to go.

Obviously the number of languages will decrease over time as we head into the deep past. The spread of humanity across the earth will also contract over time.

As soon as you cross the line around five thousand years (BCE) ago, almost all the known cities around the world vanish.

Move past seven thousand (BC) and we have just a few known and small cities. Push the handle past nine thousand years and your looking at some evidence of early settlements.

You wont find really old cities in Africa, the Middle East is where the earliest settlements are located.

Byblos, Damascus and Jericho, all touch nine thousand years BC.

What amazes me the most is just how quickly the human population falls across a mere few thousand years.
 
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The planets. Binary stars. Variable stars. Neutron stars. Interstellar molecular clouds. Globular clusters. Galaxies. Quasars. The cosmic microwave background.
I think the current estimate of the number of Galaxies in the universe, is around two trillion Galaxies.

I cannot believe that two trillion galaxies given that each galaxy probably contains more than a billion suns. This extraordinary mass can somehow explode out of an entity smaller than a ping pong ball.

I don't know about anyone else but I cannot accept this explanation. It is not physically possible, there is something deeply wrong with this idea.

People think the Bible makes some wild claims, perhaps they should check out the claims of science.
 
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I think the current estimate of the number of Galaxies in the universe, is around two trillion Galaxies.

I cannot believe that two trillion galaxies given that each galaxy probably contains more than a billion suns. This extraordinary mass can somehow explode out of an entity smaller than a ping pong ball.

I don't know about anyone else but I cannot accept this explanation. It is not physically possible, there is something deeply wrong with this idea.

People think the Bible makes some wild claims, perhaps they should check out the claims of science.

An argument from personal incredulity does not invalidate a near centuries worth of scientific work.
 
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I think the current estimate of the number of Galaxies in the universe, is around two trillion Galaxies.

I cannot believe that two trillion galaxies given that each galaxy probably contains more than a billion suns. This extraordinary mass can somehow explode out of an entity smaller than a ping pong ball.

I don't know about anyone else but I cannot accept this explanation. It is not physically possible, there is something deeply wrong with this idea.

People think the Bible makes some wild claims, perhaps they should check out the claims of science.
It wasn't mass then, it was energy.
 
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No, it's personal incredulity. The maths is possible. That's why the Big Bang Theory exists.
I disagree.

In science one needs to know the initial state of the entity to start the calculations. The singularity is beyond space time, hence, the singularity cannot be measured.

Since the singularity is beyond the realm of science, one cannot then mathematically connect the singularity with the observable universe.

As I said before, it is mathematically impossible to support the Big Bang.
 
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I disagree.

In science one needs to know the initial state of the entity to start the calculations. The singularity is beyond space time, hence, the singularity cannot be measured.

Since the singularity is beyond the realm of science, one cannot then mathematically connect the singularity with the observable universe.

As I said before, it is mathematically impossible to support the Big Bang.

... and yet scientists have a working model of the Big Bang. ... Seriously, you're entire argument is just "I don't understand it, therefore it can't be correct." There's no two ways around it.
 
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... and yet scientists have a working model of the Big Bang. ... Seriously, you're entire argument is just "I don't understand it, therefore it can't be correct." There's no two ways around it.
The existence of the singularity is unknown.

Once again, we cannot speculate about the possible existence of an entity beyond time itself.
Science is not permitted that luxury.
 
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The existence of the singularity is unknown.

Once again, we cannot speculate about the possible existence of an entity beyond time itself.
Science is not permitted that luxury.

Except that it can. Hence the Big Bang Theory.
 
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No, I'm not talking about Bible base interpretations. I'm talking about what you think are Bible based interpretations, which are decidedly and firmly in the realm of 'crackpot'.
This has what to do with all languages on earth? This has what to do with evidence for your vague doubts?
 
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The planets. Binary stars. Variable stars. Neutron stars. Interstellar molecular clouds. Globular clusters. Galaxies. Quasars. The cosmic microwave background.
The planets will be no more if the universe infolds on itself one supposes. Perhaps they were shuttled into position, possibly even after the flood era, to be of use to earth? Maybe shield us from stuff or etc..? Who knows?
 
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Depends how far back you want to go.

Obviously the number of languages will decrease over time as we head into the deep past. The spread of humanity across the earth will also contract over time.

As soon as you cross the line around five thousand years (BCE) ago, almost all the known cities around the world vanish.

Move past seven thousand (BC) and we have just a few known and small cities. Push the handle past nine thousand years and your looking at some evidence of early settlements.

You wont find really old cities in Africa, the Middle East is where the earliest settlements are located.

Byblos, Damascus and Jericho, all touch nine thousand years BC.

What amazes me the most is just how quickly the human population falls across a mere few thousand years.
There were north Americans 12,000? 18,000? years ago. No way they shared a language with contemporaries living in Mesopotamia, ancient Africa, etc, etc.
 
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There were north Americans 12,000? 18,000? years ago. No way they shared a language with contemporaries living in Mesopotamia, ancient Africa, etc, etc.
Aboriginals were in Australia at least 65,000 years ago, probably before then. That's a long time for languages to develop and change.
 
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