Why do fellow creationists use natural explanations to unnatural events?

[coffee4u]

The only mention of angels in the two quite different creation stories in Genesis is the angel posted at The Garden to keep Adam and Eve out. However, there is no mention that God made that angel or any angel. People quite frequently read things into scripture largely in order to justify some belief that they had come to quite independently of scripture.

You don't think God created the angels? What verses do you use to support that view? There are dozens of verses mentioning angels, that they belong to God and that they do his work.

Colossians 1:16
16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.


Matthew 22:30
30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.


Luke 15:10
In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”

Matthew 16:27
27 For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.


Isaiah 40:26
26 Lift up your eyes on high and see:
who created these?
He who brings out their host by number,
calling them all by name;
by the greatness of his might
and because he is strong in power,
not one is missing.

 

[MrsFoundit]

The only mention of angels in the two quite different creation stories in Genesis is the angel posted at The Garden to keep Adam and Eve out. However, there is no mention that God made that angel or any angel. People quite frequently read things into scripture largely in order to justify some belief that they had come to quite independently of scripture.

Genesis 3:24 "He drove out the man, and at the east of the garden of Eden he placed the cherubim and a flaming sword that turned every way to guard the way to the tree of life." - cherubim is plural.


Revelation 4:11
11 “You are worthy, our Lord and God,
to receive glory and honor and power,
for you created all things,
and by your will they were created
and have their being.”

Angels, being part of all things, so yes, God made them.

 

[MrsFoundit]

Most people can't stand up in a 175mph wind and it would take a much stronger wind than that to create the chasm as explained in the Scriptures.

Can anybody stand or run in 175mph wind?

 

[miamited]

Can anybody stand or run in 175mph wind?

Hi mrsfoundit,

No, but that's my point isn't it? Usually, when we try to explain away the miracles of God with natural explanations, if we lay out all the facts of the account, there are no natural explanations that will answer the full set of facts. So, when people say that God used a mighty wind to part the sea, even though God's word does say that a mighty wind blew all night to 'drive back' the sea. We are then told that Moses had to actually touch the water with his staff before it 'parted'. But even if we go ahead and try to make the argument that he parted the sea with a strong east wind, it would be impossible for the nation of Israel to pass through that partition while this 'strong east wind' was blowing. If we allow that it blew very hard and then stopped for the people to pass through, then what's going to hold back the walls of water on the right and left hand?

Then we have the account of the crucifixion where we are told about the darkness, and people want to search the historical heavenly charts to explain that event happened during a known solar eclipse. Well, I don't know about your experience with solar eclipses, but I live right in the heart zone of this last one and while it did become like dusk, it didn't last for the length of time that the Scriptures tell us that the darkness was upon the earth. The darkest period of this last eclipse lasted about 15 minutes. Immediately prior and after that fifteen minute time period it was still quite light. I mean, just a quarter of the sun exposed in the sky still throws out a lot of light. The Scriptures tell us that: From noon until three in the afternoon darkness came over all the land. There isn't any natural eclipse that will match that fact of the account. At most, even the beginning of the covering of the sun and the end of it, is about an hour and a half, and it isn't dark but for the very half hour, at most, in the center of that hour.

God bless,
In Christ, ted