Yes, a flat earth has been disproven...as has creationism. We need to qualify terms here...creationism specifically means the belief that the chrisitan god created in the way described in the opening chapters of genesis. Obviously, this would not accord with Hindu, or Buddhist, or native American beliefs. They have their own creation myths. So we'd need to teach them, too. Or are you happy with the simple statement "Some religions believe that a god created the earth in some specific way"?Katydid said:First off, the theory of the flat earth has been disproven. No need to teach a disproven theory. As for the other theories, they probably fall into the creationist theory. The creationist theory does not state that the one true God created earth, but that a higher being created earth. That is how it was taught to me. So any religion that believes that the earth was created by a god, would be covered in creationism.
Okay, so now we're down to teaching NO science (since all of science is theories), just to appease some religions. Is that really what you want? A nation of scientific ignoramusses?Katydid said:Then NO theory should be taught. It is either ALL theories, or NO theory. I can live with No theory being taught.
Okay, now you qualify - you just don't want to teach any theories that deal with the creation of the universe, earth, or the origin of species. All just to appease some religious people. And what if another group of religious people start complaining because they believe the earth is flat, and teaching it is round violates their religious belief? Do you really want people's religious beliefs to determine what is taught in science classes?Katydid said:No , just not theories of creation, big bang etc. You know, theories about the beginning of the human race.
And leave the families - nearly all of whom are scientifically ignorant (no slur, most people are) - to teach science? And can we get them to teach math as well, in case it offends someone?Katydid said:To me, it doesn't matter if there is a theory or "scientific theory". The point is, you have some who are offended if creationism is even mentioned, and some who are offended if it is not. So in my opinion, since, there is so much diversity in our society, NO theory of how we began should be mentioned. Let the families teach that on their own.
Sorry, but that's just false. There is ample evidence supporting the big bang and evolutionary theory. That doesn't make them facts - 'theory' is as far as things go in science. You're confusing the scientific usage of the term 'theory' with the non-scientific use. In science, 'theory' does NOT mean something that cannot or has not been proven. It means some explanation which has stood the test of time, which has not been disproved, and which has overwhelming evidence to support it.Katydid said:If there was evidence supporting any of these theories, they would be facts not theories. A theory is something that CANNOT be proven or HASN'T been proven. Therefore, according to your own words, creation should not be discussed.
No, they don't. Creationism has no supporting evidence. Evolution does. The big bang does. That's why they're science.Katydid said:Now as far as evidence that goes to support a theory, all the theories have that. You can find evidence to support the big bang theory, evolution, and YES even creation, or as it is called in some circles, intelligent design. All of these have support found by scientists.
Ther eis no contradictory SCIENTIFIC theory to the big bang and evolution. Therefore it's okay to teach that scientific theory in science classes...yes?Katydid said:My only argument, is that there is no contradicting theory to gravity, or relativity, while there are many theories on creation, therefore it is wrong to limit teaching to only one of those theories.
I do not. Children need to be protected from the mistakes of their parents as far as possible. Parents should not have the right to prevent their children from learning modern science because it conflicts with their religious views.Katydid said:I do sympathise with those who believe one specific thing and don't want their children to not learn it alongside other theories.
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