Why Do Christians Want Creationism Taught In Public Schools?

[xMinionX]

Didn't read all the posts, but in answer to the OP:

Creationism taught in school....

Because they cover evolution, big bang, and the pool of slush, which are all theories, so the theory of creationism should also be covered.

As far as the others go, well, if it doesn't matter, then why do you want to get rid of it?

*bangs head on desk*
Creationism is not science!

 

[Katydid]

*bangs head on desk*
Creationism is not science!

It is a theory of the creation of the human and animal life on earth, and just about as provable as the big bang theory or evolution. If you are teaching theories, then you need to teach ALL theories.

 

[xMinionX]

It is a theory of the creation of the human and animal life on earth, and just about as provable as the big bang theory or evolution.

Not through the scientific methods it isn't. The bible is not proof by scientific standards.

 

[Katydid]

Well, then the only other solution, would be to not teach any theories on creation, because your standards, my standards, and joe blow's standards will never agree.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

Not through the scientific methods it isn't. The bible is not proof by scientific standards.

I believe the operative word used was 'theory' and science isn't by default 'exlusionary' of information or ideas. If it was, we wouldn't have theories proven false over time because the 'majority' already accepted it.

 

[Katydid]

The bible is not proof by scientific standards.

I just caught that, thank you christiancenturion.

None of the THEORIES have been PROVED. So if you teach one THEORY, then you must teach all other THEORIES, since NONE OF THEM have been proven.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

I just caught that, thank you christiancenturion.

None of the THEORIES have been PROVED. So if you teach one THEORY, then you must teach all other THEORIES, since NONE OF THEM have been proven.

Always a pleasure to be of service.

 

[Electric Sceptic]

It is a theory of the creation of the human and animal life on earth, and just about as provable as the big bang theory or evolution. If you are teaching theories, then you need to teach ALL theories.

So I suppose we should teach the Hindu 'theory' of creation, and the Buddhist one, and the native American ones too? While we're att it, we better teach the 'theory' of a flat earth as well?

 

[ChristianCenturion]

So I suppose we should teach the Hindu 'theory' of creation, and the Buddhist one, and the native American ones too? While we're att it, we better teach the 'theory' of a flat earth as well?

All which I have been taught in public schools, I suppose that you had a point somewhere in there...

 

[Katydid]

So I suppose we should teach the Hindu 'theory' of creation, and the Buddhist one, and the native American ones too? While we're att it, we better teach the 'theory' of a flat earth as well?

First off, the theory of the flat earth has been disproven. No need to teach a disproven theory. As for the other theories, they probably fall into the creationist theory. The creationist theory does not state that the one true God created earth, but that a higher being created earth. That is how it was taught to me. So any religion that believes that the earth was created by a god, would be covered in creationism.

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[xMinionX]

First off, the theory of the flat earth has been disproven. No need to teach a disproven theory. As for the other theories, they probably fall into the creationist theory. The creationist theory does not state that the one true God created earth, but that a higher being created earth. That is how it was taught to me. So any religion that believes that the earth was created by a god, would be covered in creationism.

Evolution is a theory that was developed using science, and has been expanded and built upon using science.

Creationism is a cultural construct. It has no real basis in science. It was not formed out of scientific observation, but out of religion. As such, it has no place in science class. It belongs in a social studies or anthropology class.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

Evolution is a theory that was developed using science, and has been expanded and built upon using science.

Creationism is a cultural construct. It has no real basis in science. It was not formed out of scientific observation, but out of religion. As such, it has no place in science class. It belongs in a social studies or anthropology class.

Thank you for that... opinion.

 

[xMinionX]

Thank you for that... opinion.

You're..... welcome.

 

[Katydid]

Then NO theory should be taught. It is either ALL theories, or NO theory. I can live with No theory being taught.

 

[joebudda]

Then NO theory should be taught. It is either ALL theories, or NO theory. I can live with No theory being taught.

Then you are saying we shouldn’t teach any science in schools.

If you don’t mind please tell me your definitions for “theory” and “scientific theory”. Is there is difference in these two terms?

 

[corvus_corax]

Then NO theory should be taught. It is either ALL theories, or NO theory. I can live with No theory being taught.

So out with the theory of gravity (both versions)
Out with Germ theory
Out with quantum physics
Out with General and special relativity

Out with...Oh, Im sure you see my point by now.

 

[Shane Roach]

The main objection to talking about creationism in public schools appears to center around it not being science and therefore not being mentioned in science class. It is, however, a creation theory and should be mentioned alongside other creation theories along with explanations. The comparison fits right in with a science class. I have yet to hear a compelling reason that this religious objection to talking about something that is not a scientific theory in a science class when it relates directly to the subject being discussed.

Several have mentioned discussing it in some other class. I doubt seriously the public schools are going to institute philosophy classes anytime soon, but if it were covered in social studies that would be fine with me too.

Ultimately I am concerned with the way atheism is being stressed in the public forum, not which class something is taught in.

 

[joebudda]

The main objection to talking about creationism in public schools appears to center around it not being science and therefore not being mentioned in science class. It is, however, a creation theory and should be mentioned alongside other creation theories along with explanations. The comparison fits right in with a science class. I have yet to hear a compelling reason that this religious objection to talking about something that is not a scientific theory in a science class when it relates directly to the subject being discussed.

Several have mentioned discussing it in some other class. I doubt seriously the public schools are going to institute philosophy classes anytime soon, but if it were covered in social studies that would be fine with me too.

Ultimately I am concerned with the way atheism is being stressed in the public forum, not which class something is taught.

Can you give me examples on how atheism is stressed in school?

 

[Shane Roach]

Can you give me examples on how atheism is stressed in school?

I said public forum, not school. Having said that, an example of it in school is this very debate. The idea that the world is going to come to an end if all angles of a subject are discussed in a science class is an example of atheistic values being given more weight than simple common sense.

There is a case about ten commandments displays before the supreme court that is another example of the eagerness of some to do away with references to God in the public forum.

It doesn't matter what class you discuss facts in, as long as facts are discussed.

 

[Shane Roach]

Then you are saying we shouldn’t teach any science in schools.

If you don’t mind please tell me your definitions for “theory” and “scientific theory”. Is there is difference in these two terms?

It looks to me to be an appeal to fairness to counteract your appeal to authority.