Why do Christians hate Wicca(Witchcraft)?

[revolutio]

That's right Nathan...it's a choice.

Belief is not a choice. It is the culmination of experience, observation, and reflection.

 

[Skellybones]

God Himself says you ar either His people and worship Him only or you aren't one of His children,it's pretty simple.

So why create a race of beings with freedom of choice...? Sounds like a sadist to me.

 

[Aaron11]

We've established that God hates witchcraft...so stop spinning in circles.
I'm asking to DEFINE witchcraft as spoke of in the Bible so we can
determine what it is that he hates.

And if the term denotes those who mixed cures from herbs,
then as the previous poster stated...throw out your medications.
Most medications are derivatives of what's found in nature.

So, perhaps it is ancient pharmacists that God hated????

I doubt it.

I believe God hates magic/sorcery etc. That is what I think He meant by "witchcraft".

I would like to hear what you think God meant by witchcraft. I know you are shooting other people's ideas down, which is fine, but I would like to hear your idea of a better answer.

 

[Aaron11]

Belief is not a choice. It is the culmination of experience, observation, and reflection.

Living by faith is a choice. Belief doesn't save people, even the demons believe.

 

[Aaron11]

[noflame]

 

[Skellybones]

I doubt it.

I believe God hates magic/sorcery etc. That is what I think He meant by "witchcraft".

Then if the ivory god performs miracles he must hate himself.

 

[Skellybones]

What a freak.


I think your brain is broken or something.

Nice return. I can see you get out of the house often.

"Brain is broken"...hmmm...right.

I do not understand this, "I dont understand this 'you're either with us or you're against us' attitude" I don't see how you dont understand this.

I don't understand how people expect this backwards mantra to work!

 

[revolutio]

Living by faith is a choice. Belief doesn't save people, even the demons believe.

I agree that physical actions are typically considered choices, however what is the point of living by faith if you don't have it. I don't know of anyone who has decided to practice Christianity before having faith in it. The same goes for every other religion.

I was under the impression that belief in Christ does save people.

 

[Eliot]

Greetings,
what is a witch?

 

[Aaron11]

I agree that physical actions are typically considered choices, however what is the point of living by faith if you don't have it. I don't know of anyone who has decided to practice Christianity before having faith in it. The same goes for every other religion.

I was under the impression that belief in Christ does save people.

Don't the demons believe?

 

[Maria Mante]

Belief alone does not save you. Neither do works alone. You have to have both to have a chance to be saved.

 

[ALL4J3SUS]

Deuteronomy 18:9-12
9 “When you arrive in the land the LORD your God is giving you, be very careful not to imitate the detestable customs of the nations living there.
10 For example, never sacrifice your son or daughter as a burnt offering. And do not let your people practice fortune-telling or sorcery, or allow them to interpret omens, or engage in witchcraft,
11 or cast spells, or function as mediums or psychics, or call forth the spirits of the dead.
12 Anyone who does these things is an object of horror and disgust to the LORD.

The Israelites were naturally curious about the occult practices of the Canaanite religions. But Satan is behind the occult, and God flatly forbade Israel to have anything to do with it. Today people are still fascinated by horoscopes, fortune-telling, witchcraft, and bizarre cults. Often their interest comes from a desire to know and control the future. But Satan is no less dangerous today than he was in Moses’ time. In the Bible, God tells us all we need to know about what is going to happen. The information Satan offers is likely to be distorted or completely false. With the trustworthy guidance of the Holy Spirit through the Bible and the church, we don’t need to turn to occult sources for faulty information.


Revelation 21:7-8
7 All who are victorious will inherit all these blessings, and I will be their God, and they will be My children.
8 But cowards who turn away from Me, and unbelievers, and the corrupt, and murderers, and the immoral, and those who practice witchcraft, and idol worshipers, and all liars—their doom is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death.”

 

[Skellybones]

Question: why do christians think that the only way for a person to accomplish a supernatural feat is from either the ivory god's support or Satan's/demonic funding?

Do you not believe in the power of the mind? Or do you simply loathe all things you do not understand? Just curious...

 

[Smilin]

I certainly dont hate Pagans/Wiccans. In fact I have been friends with such people. They are not Satanic or evil, its an earth religion.

The only thing dangerous about it is that they do not accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, and are thus likely to end up in Hell.

Anyhow for this reason its not any more dangerous than Hinduism and Buddhism.

And if it is Satanic, most of them dont realise it! So its not that Pagans/Wiccans go out purposely to attack God or Christianity! They've just been decieved thats all!!

1. Pagan is a Christian term for every other religion exclusive to their own.
An earth religion? Me and mine honor the Earth and Nature for it is the pure
demonstration of the Creator, or the Great Divine as some of my friends term
it.

2. Hell is a pure Christian concept that not all Christians accept. Neither
do the Native Americans. The only true danger we encountered were
the invading Christians who demanded conversion or taste death.

3. Not accepting Christ as a savior since some of us do not accept the
notion of inherited sin is not a danger to us. The dangers we fear are
those radicals who would spill innocent blood due to their personal
religous convictions.

4. Deceived? Nature does not decieve. Humans are the masters of
deception.

 

[Aaron11]

[noflame]

 

[Maria Mante]

Question: why do christians think that the only way for a person to accomplish a supernatural feat is from either the ivory god's support or Satan's/demonic funding?

Do you not believe in the power of the mind? Or do you simply loathe all things you do not understand? Just curious...

Though the majority of Christians are like that, not all. I personally don't. I Believe in millions of things that most people will think you're weird for thinking so.

But to be honest, I couldn't quite tell you why they don't. I suppose they are just afraid to accept any other reason. But thats just a random guess.

Aaron11: Please don't start a flame war. That was un-called for.

 

[Skellybones]

EDITED BY CF STAFF.

Since there is no such thing as "normal", I'll just ignore this.

 

[ALL4J3SUS]

Belief alone does not save you. Neither do works alone. You have to have both to have a chance to be saved.

Ephesians 2:8-9

For by grace you have been saved through faith,
it is the gift of God, not of works,
lest anyone should boast.

 

[Maria Mante]

James 2:24-26

24 See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. 25 And in the same way, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she welcomed the messengers and sent them out by a different route? 26 For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.

Ephesians is just basically saying that we are not saved by works alone a man cannot his good works if he does not have the Faith in God as well.

 

[Lizquests]

Before I get into the scripture on why it is not ok to be a witch, practice witchcraft, (even if it is natural and seem good), I want to tell you some things from my past.


While growing up (I'm 29 now) I always had a very strong curiosity for ghosts, poltergeists, tarot readers, good/bad witchcraft, I always wondered if there really was a devil, and lots of other things. To me, I justified it as just a curiosity. I used to watch a lot of horror movies (I never thought that those kind of movies would affect me), read spells.

Here are a couple of examples of MY CURIOSITY (I'll try to keep them as brief as possible.):

1. Wondering if there was a devil: My ex-friends boyfriend knew how to talk in a different language. It had something to do with the devil. He had me look into a candle while chanting something. I couldn't understand him. While he was chanting, I saw scarry things. He was asking me to give up my soul to the devil. I did. (I was curious to see what would happen.) (Thank God that I have it back and it is for Him alone.) Then I was asked to give up my family's souls to the devil. I started crying and said NO. A couple of things shattered around the room, my face was pure sweat but my body was very cold, and part of the hair on my head stood straight up. VERY CREEPY

2. While performing so called white magic, my spells came true. EERIE

3. I have witnessed another who could tell me where things were that I had lost. This person never met me before and never was in my house. But he found it.

I have so many other stories that are scarry, but I am not going to get into them. Towards the end, my father tried telling me that any form of witchcraft, even ones considered natural are pure evil. He would quote scripture, but I wouldn't want to believe him because "I" was having fun doing things like spells, etc. I thought that my soul wasn't in danger. Boy was I wrong. I'm glad that I finally listened, instead of heard, the truth.

Here is why I don't practice any longer:

1. Exodus 22:18-13 - Do not allow a sorceress to live.
2. Deuteronomy 18:10 - Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spirist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord, and because of these detestable practices the Lord your God, will drive out those nations before you. You must be blameless before the Lord your God.
3. 1 Samuel 15:23 - For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as inquity and idolatry.
4. 2 Chron 33:6 - He sacrificed his sons in the fire in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, practiced sorcery, divination and witchcraft, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the eys of the Lord, provoking him to anger.

These are just some of scripture that has helped me to change my viewpoints on this subject. I hope that this helps in guidence for others.

God Bless!