Why do Christians hate the theory of evolution?

Alithis · Mar 30, 2014

chiwawa said:
What is not true?

some one said all Christians believed the sun revolved around the earth... rome did,but Rome does not represent all Christians and we weren't around to ask the rest... we must not not present conjecture as fact.its not honest.

yeshuaslavejeff · Mar 30, 2014

quote" so the implication of theistic evolution is what message? -do not trust in the lord with all thine heart and lean - on thy own understanding"..?"

"THAT" is "RIGHT"!

now, shortly, like other disobedient or sinful thoughts and desires, when one is permitted, willingly, wittingly, or un-consciously(so to speak)
then that shows and/or allows disobedient spirits to (heavily) influence the ability of someone to
NOT think clearly - as YHWH STATES "if anyone considers sin in their heart, I do not listen to their prayer"
and again
"if you break one law, you break all of them" (yes, really!)
and
this means as long as someone holds to something directly contrary to God's Will and God's Purpose in Y'shua the Savior,
then
none of their thoughts or words or actions may be trusted. (because their motivating force, their realm of thinking, their spirit, is compromised (at least, or worse) ).

chiwawa · Mar 31, 2014

michaelmynameIs said:
some one said all Christians believed the sun revolved around the earth... rome did,but Rome does not represent all Christians and we weren't around to ask the rest... we must not not present conjecture as fact.its not honest.

so the study of history is all conjecture? Interesting...

yeshuaslavejeff · Mar 31, 2014

chiwawa said:

so the study of history is all conjecture? Interesting...

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boring, really. yes, usually conjecture, but boring. and deadly.

how many people know why and how the titanic was sunk (on purpose driven into a pod of bergs to make sure TWO PEOPLE died!) ?

how many people know how long it has been known that mercury causes autism ?

how many people know that the nobel prize winner who cured all heart disease and showed how to always prevent heart disease
was chased out of the country for it and his family was threatened to be murdered if he published it ?

how many people know that the righteous man who discovered all le.k.m.a is caused/associated with a severe deficiency in vitamin a and thus is easy to cure(he cured every case out of 3000 this way)
...that he was arrested and poisoned by the drug makers ?

how many people know that their tap water is often more dangerous to their family at home
than a pack of cigarettes smoked in the home every day would be ?

how many people know that the C.I.A. purposefully infiltrated several groups who were fighting together against big business,big pharma, and oppressive politics, for a good and right government in the beginning of the last century
and caused them to fight against each other to prevent them from improving government ?

how many people know that church in the united states is not church in the BIBLE. ?

so, you see, history has been totally re-written and cannot over all be trusted. (religiously, politically, economically, etc etc etc)

standingtall · Mar 31, 2014

Amazing that this thread hasn't been locked yet even though there are plenty of folks posting that aren't Baptist.

Guess there aren't enough Catholics posting on it to justify locking it.

Alithis · Mar 31, 2014

chiwawa said:
so the study of history is all conjecture? Interesting...

Now thats not what i said or meant lol its just wise to not use the term
"All" when there is no way to verify all.
And any one can post on any forum no problem. Theistic evolution is not a set baptist
Stance.its an individual thought.
I just find that, for me,to entertain that thought i find myself faced with a choice
To believe God in simplistic child like faith..or doubt him.
My intellect in an unrenewed state is carnal in its reasoning ,can i trust it?should
I trust it?
I think not.
We must trust God

chiwawa · Mar 31, 2014

yeshuaslavejeff said:
boring, really. yes, usually conjecture, but boring. and deadly.

how many people know why and how the titanic was sunk (on purpose driven into a pod of bergs to make sure TWO PEOPLE died!) ?

how many people know how long it has been known that mercury causes autism ?

how many people know that the nobel prize winner who cured all heart disease and showed how to always prevent heart disease
was chased out of the country for it and his family was threatened to be murdered if he published it ?

how many people know that the righteous man who discovered all le.k.m.a is caused/associated with a severe deficiency in vitamin a and thus is easy to cure(he cured every case out of 3000 this way)
...that he was arrested and poisoned by the drug makers ?

how many people know that their tap water is often more dangerous to their family at home
than a pack of cigarettes smoked in the home every day would be ?

how many people know that the C.I.A. purposefully infiltrated several groups who were fighting together against big business,big pharma, and oppressive politics, for a good and right government in the beginning of the last century
and caused them to fight against each other to prevent them from improving government ?

how many people know that church in the united states is not church in the BIBLE. ?

so, you see, history has been totally re-written and cannot over all be trusted. (religiously, politically, economically, etc etc etc)

I've never seen so much drivel that fit into such a small space. Congratulations.

chiwawa · Mar 31, 2014

michaelmynameIs said:
I just find that, for me,to entertain that thought i find myself faced with a choice
To believe God in simplistic child like faith..or doubt him.

Why are those the only two options? Why do you keep implying theistic evolutionists don't have the same level of faith that you do? Even to say they "doubt him".

You're right, I don't have a simplistic child like faith in God... I have an adult-like faith rooted in reason, respect and love.

If you don't agree with that, fine. But don't say my faith is any less than yours because its not "child-like".

yeshuaslavejeff · Mar 31, 2014

chiwawa said:

I've never seen so much drivel that fit into such a small space. Congratulations.

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like mark twain said "peopl laugh because they're not use to hearing the truth"

test every statement, research one hour or one thousand hours, and you'll be shocked to find out the truth is not known by yourself or others you have trusted in the past. that is the state of society and the world.

if you don't think for yourself and look into it seeking to honor God(to trust and obey Him), if God doesn't take away the veil in any case, no one can know nor understand nor grasp truth.

as Yhwh and His Word and Y'shua witnesses, everything I say is truth, and if it is dribble to you then what does that indicate about who you learned from in the world and what you have learned in your short life so far ?

trust Yhwh, in Y'shua's Faithfulness, and you will not be disappointed.
trust man-flesh-world, anywhere, any time, and you don't have a chance. Yhwh's Decree, Yhwh's Word.

chiwawa · Mar 31, 2014

yeshuaslavejeff said:
like mark twain said "peopl laugh because they're not use to hearing the truth"

test every statement, research one hour or one thousand hours, and you'll be shocked to find out the truth is not known by yourself or others you have trusted in the past. that is the state of society and the world.

Mark Twain never said that.

What was that about truth again?

yeshuaslavejeff · Mar 31, 2014

chiwawa said:

Mark Twain never said that.

What was that about truth again?

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I don't know if you're young, educated, man, woman or bot, but
you don't know much if anything about mark twain.

either that, or my alzhimers is acting up again and someone else said people aren''t used to the truth...... (probably no help to advise you read the tanakh, and the rest of Scriptures. it was written long before mark twain, and no one understands it unless they seek God, love the truth, and God grants understanding.)

Sayre · Mar 31, 2014

standingtall said:
Amazing that this thread hasn't been locked yet even though there are plenty of folks posting that aren't Baptist.

Guess there aren't enough Catholics posting on it to justify locking it.

Want some help?

We've hit conspiracy theory land now. This thread can go no where good.

God bless and chin up.

yeshuaslavejeff · Mar 31, 2014

chiwawa said:

Mark Twain never said that.

What was that about truth again?

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I called the library to 'search' for this, they will get back to me later today or tomorrow sometime.... (God Willing)

- I was sure it was so commonly known that it would turn up on nternet search quickly, but it does not - perhaps as some sites say because of some 'vulgarity' he used in the same or surrounding statements and the new thought police (haha , 'conspiracy theory' ? , not .... common sense! look around ! test everything! (as Scripture says to) )

and go ahead, take prayer and time to look into what the public is taught is a lie, and what they are told is false is truth. (this one is simple)

but then again, if you don't want to know, oh well.

Alithis · Mar 31, 2014

chiwawa said:
Why are those the only two options? Why do you keep implying theistic evolutionists don't have the same level of faith that you do? Even to say they "doubt him".

You're right, I don't have a simplistic child like faith in God... I have an adult-like faith rooted in reason, respect and love.

If you don't agree with that, fine. But don't say my faith is any less than yours because its not "child-like".

??Your putting words in i never said.no need to be defensive.
But since we are on the topic of child like faith lets go back to what the lord Jesus taught.

And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven....

In this respect i would not put to much emphasis behind
my so called adult abilities of reason..for in mans greatest reasoned wisdom..he is stll talking foolishness in Gods sight.

Alithis · Mar 31, 2014

yeshuaslavejeff said:
I called the library to 'search' for this, they will get back to me later today or tomorrow sometime.... (God Willing)

- I was sure it was so commonly known that it would turn up on nternet search quickly, but it does not - perhaps as some sites say because of some 'vulgarity' he used in the same or surrounding statements and the new thought police (haha , 'conspiracy theory' ? , not .... common sense! look around ! test everything! (as Scripture says to) )

and go ahead, take prayer and time to look into what the public is taught is a lie, and what they are told is false is truth. (this one is simple)

but then again, if you don't want to know, oh well.

I think your driving a diiferent cart through the wrong stable... 😜

standingtall · Mar 31, 2014

Sayre said:
Want some help?

We've hit conspiracy theory land now. This thread can go no where good.

God bless and chin up.

Hope you know that wasn't a stab at Catholics....merely an observation on my part.

And yes, conspiracy theories may yet sound the death knell of this thread....or at least one can hope.

yeshuaslavejeff · Mar 31, 2014

michaelmynameIs said:
I think your driving a diiferent cart through the wrong stable... 😜

"THAT'S" right .... but if anyone happens along seeking Truth, or has been stuck in the old society/worldly lies and realizes it by God's Grace somehow, then GOOD!

Like Paul said , one plants, another waters, but it is Yhwh Who gives the growth(life in Jesus and salvation from the world, et al) . (no one else can)

standingtall · Mar 31, 2014

yeshuaslavejeff said:
(life in Jesus and salvation from the world, et al) . (no one else can)

You're slippin' there, sport. You just referred to the Savior by his English name instead of Hebrew name. Shame on you.

chiwawa · Mar 31, 2014

yeshuaslavejeff said:
I called the library to 'search' for this, they will get back to me later today or tomorrow sometime.... (God Willing)

- I was sure it was so commonly known that it would turn up on nternet search quickly, but it does not - perhaps as some sites say because of some 'vulgarity' he used in the same or surrounding statements and the new thought police (haha , 'conspiracy theory' ? , not .... common sense! look around ! test everything! (as Scripture says to) )

and go ahead, take prayer and time to look into what the public is taught is a lie, and what they are told is false is truth. (this one is simple)

but then again, if you don't want to know, oh well.

The library? But they will check their history books, and a wise man once told me that history cannot be trusted.

chiwawa · Mar 31, 2014

michaelmynameIs said:
??Your putting words in i never said.no need to be defensive.
But since we are on the topic of child like faith lets go back to what the lord Jesus taught.
In this respect i would not put to much emphasis behind
my so called adult abilities of reason..for in mans greatest reasoned wisdom..he is stll talking foolishness in Gods sight.

So Jesus is saying to be child-like all the time? Or should we interpret it to be child-likely ignorant to things we only disagree with?

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