Why do atheists seem to obsess over something they don't believe in?

[Eudaimonist]

Did you say vicious slander? An elitist who looks down on religious people as imagining things

You are slandering me yet again.

First, I don't look down on theists. Second, while I think that religious people may misinterpret their experiences, I don't think that they are merely imagining things. Third, I would never say that atheists always interpret their experiences correctly.

A man who has no respect for his heavenly creator, who wants to establish a godless society is lecturing someone about slander?

Again, you are putting words into my mouth. I never said that I wanted to establish a "godless society". It is impossible for me to have a philosophical discussion with you under these circumstances.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[bhsmte]

You are slandering me yet again.

First, I don't look down on theists. Second, while I think that religious people may misinterpret their experiences, I don't think that they are merely imagining things.



Again, you are putting words into my mouth. I never said that I wanted to establish a "godless society". It is impossible for me to have a philosophical discussion with you under these circumstances.


eudaimonia,

Mark

You gotta love it when some interpret everything in the extreme, to paint someone with a broad brush.

 

[Eudaimonist]

You gotta love it when some interpret everything in the extreme, to paint someone with a broad brush.

In Colter's case, it's a paint grenade.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Freodin]

I found that people who think they have a direct revelation of divine knowledge are very likely to act this way.

People who think they have a direct revelation of divine knowledge with supersedes other direct revelations of divine knowledge are even more likely to act this way.

 

[Golden Yak]

If all opinions are equally valid, what makes the 'higher authority's' opinion on morality* better than anyone else's?

And if all opinions aren't equal, then what's the problem with having only human ones to work with?


*Which is all it is, ultimately - one being's opinion.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Some of the claims of the UB have been substantiated and yes, it does work for me much more so than the morbid worldview of Atheisms doctrines of death.

Kim Jung-un gives us a picture of the Atheist utopia.

1. Is he actually an atheist?

2. I don't judge you or Christianity in general solely upon the actions of the "black sheep"; please extend the same courtesy

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Even though the source of so called "natural reality" in progressive society is the unacknowledged presence of the "spirit of truth", Jesus Christ, lets say you are correct, that there is a naturally floating moral principle derived from atomic matter among Atheist that you and your group agree upon. Why is your morality any different or better than another group of Atheist of equal or even greater size who may see "natural morality" very differently than you?????

Couldn't we ask the same of you and your religious morality?

 

[Colter]

If all opinions are equally valid, what makes the 'higher authority's' opinion on morality* better than anyone else's?

And if all opinions aren't equal, then what's the problem with having only human ones to work with?


*Which is all it is, ultimately - one being's opinion.

Our Heavenly Father knows best. Rebelling against him and going our own way just because of the shortcomings of various religions and their adherents is unwise. If one finds the presentation of God in the lives of his followers undesirable then perhaps you could find the true God and make a better presentation to your fellows.

 

[bhsmte]

Our Heavenly Father knows best. Rebelling against him and going our own way just because of the shortcomings of various religions and their adherents is unwise. If one finds the presentation of God in the lives of his followers undesirable then perhaps you could find the true God and make a better presentation to your fellows.

Which true God?

 

[Colter]

Which true God?

There is only one true God, many religions about him.

 

[bhsmte]

There is only one true God, many religions about him.

Oh, the one true God, that you believe in, right?

 

[Colter]

Oh, the one true God, that you believe in, right?

The one true God that every child of God who seeks God "believes in."

 

[JGG]

There is only one true God, many religions about him.

But the gods of varioys religions "know" different things to be best. For instance, Allah demands honour killings. Brahman demands a caste system. Which God is the right one?

 

[Colter]

But the gods of varioys religions "know" different things to be best. For instance, Allah demands honour killings. Brahman demands a caste system. Which God is the right one?

Good and legitimate question. So much of religion, it's institutions, literature, forms, rituals, liturgy, creeds, laws, dogma, concepts, etc are evolved within culture. That is to say its man made. But what they all have in common is that they seek God. It's like plant verities all reaching towards the light.

Then there is revelation of truth, generic truth, intended to enhance all religions as its missionaries go out to the four corners of the earth. Jesus had untended his missionaries to carry his good news to all the earth, but unfortunately his gospel changed the day after leaving. I new religion about Jesus thwarted his wishes.

 

[bhsmte]

Good and legitimate question. So much of religion, it's institutions, literature, forms, rituals, liturgy, creeds, laws, dogma, concepts, etc are evolved within culture. That is to say its man made. But what they all have in common is that they seek God. It's like plant verities all reaching towards the light.

Then there is revelation of truth, generic truth, intended to enhance all religions as its missionaries go out to the four corners of the earth. Jesus had untended his missionaries to carry his good news to all the earth, but unfortunately his gospel changed the day after leaving. I new religion about Jesus thwarted his wishes.

How does one verify what "generic truth" is?

 

[Archaeopteryx]

How does one verify what "generic truth" is?

Careful there, merely asking him that question increases the risk of him putting you on Ignore.

 

[Colter]

How does one verify what "generic truth" is?

The sermon on the mount is a good example. Other religions contain these sorts of living truths.

 

[Judean]

It seems that most religious guys here didn't use their "uncorrupted rational" minds to think before writing.
I fully agree with most of the atheists' posts simply because most religious people don't know how to think rationally.
Yes I'm a theist; in my private life, but America is a place where everyone should feel comfortable regardless of their state of faith.
Let's not forget the words of our patriarchs "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness".
America should especially be tolerant of atheists since her founding fathers weren't known as very religious men.

 

[quatona]

Elaborate? I highly oppose racism, I can't even begin to emphasize this enough lol, but I and the mass majority who don't agree with it are not talking about it significantly or going to forums debating it all the time.

All the time?

Personally, if I don't believe in something, it usually coincides with I don't care or take I at least don't let it take a massive part in my life(like Santa, Easter Bunny, Buddha, Allah, Zeus, Godzilla, Flying Spaghetti Monster). Seems different for atheists!

Biblegod, as opposed to all these mythological characters you have listed above, has (and has been having) a huge influence on the culture I live in. At every turn I am facing a paradigm based on Christian beliefs. Biblegod is also the guy in whose name a considerable amount of people push certain political and societal changes (or prevent them). Maybe that helps explaining why Biblegod gets more attention than the Easter Bunny.

 

[Colter]

It seems that most religious guys here didn't use their "uncorrupted rational" minds to think before writing.
I fully agree with most of the atheists' posts simply because most religious people don't know how to think rationally.
Yes I'm a theist; in my private life, but America is a place where everyone should feel comfortable regardless of their state of faith.
Let's not forget the words of our patriarchs "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness".
America should especially be tolerant of atheists since her founding fathers weren't known as very religious men.

This thread IS about our private life, it's not about politics or secular societies providing for religious tolerance.

Did you actually say that most religious folks don't know how to think rationally?