Why do atheists seem to obsess over something they don't believe in?

[Colter]

When the ideological "war in heaven" broke out between Lucifer, with his newly adopted Atheism, along with his supporters, verses Michael and his supporters, the decision was made by The Son to allow Lucifer's folly to proceed so as to allow for the full expression of his false doctrine to be heard for everyone to make their decision about allegiance to the Universal Father and his loyal subordinates or Lucifer “friend of men and angels” and the “God of liberty.”

It is difficult for faith children of God to understand why God would have allowed Lucifer a forum for his doctrines of doubt but the wisdom is that many more might have been lost had the universe rulers stepped in and stopped Lucifer from expressing his doubts about the unseen Universal Father.

I suppose these forums do the same thing, they allow for Atheist to present their philosophy of life and believers to counter.

 

[Eight Foot Manchild]

Why do atheists seem to obsess over something they don't believe in?

'God' isn't the one flying planes into buildings, throwing acid in women's faces, mutilating genitals, shooting schoolgirls in the head, hating homosexuals, retarding education and social progress and posting blithering, asinine garbage like this on message boards,

Yahushua said the enemy came only to kill and steal and destroy. the gays, the adulters , the thieves, the liars, the fornicators , will seek endless arguments and posts to try to relieve their conscience, or to find other like them, or to drag others down with them.... it will go on and on and on....

The problem isn't 'god'. The problem is the people who purport to act on his behalf.

 

[ranunculus]

When the ideological "war in heaven" broke out between Lucifer, with his newly adopted Atheism, along with his supporters, verses Michael and his supporters, the decision was made by The Son to allow Lucifer's folly to proceed so as to allow for the full expression of his false doctrine to be heard for everyone to make their decision about allegiance to the Universal Father and his loyal subordinates or Lucifer “friend of men and angels” and the “God of liberty.”

Don't you mean 'maltheism'?

 

[Colter]

Don't you mean 'maltheism'?

No, Lucifer was trying to set mankind free from what he saw as a fraudulent, unfair, indoctrinating regeim maintained by the perpetuation of a fictitious deity, a fraud created by the Paradise Sons of this unseen deity.

Lucifer wasn't the childish devil figure who makes people do immoral things, Lucifer had much grander ideas, he was the promoter of Atheist ideology.......making himself God of coarse.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

No, Lucifer was trying to set mankind free from what he saw as a fraudulent, unfair, indoctrinating regeim maintained by the perpetuation of a fictitious deity, a fraud created by the Paradise Sons of this unseen deity.

Lucifer wasn't the childish devil figure who makes people do immoral things, Lucifer had much grander ideas, he was the promoter of Atheist ideology.......making himself God of coarse.

You don't understand atheism.

Lucifer is one of those characters that atheist also consider fictitious. There is about as much evidence for the existence of God, Lucifer, angels and demons as there is evidence for leprechauns, fairies, Bigfoot and yeti.

To be an atheist is to be unconvinced that gods and supernatural beings actually exist in reality.

How could Lucifer ever be atheist if he himself is a supernatural being? How could he ever say, "there is no god" if he himself has talked to and been in the presence of God?

 

[bhsmte]

You don't understand atheism.

Lucifer is one of those characters that atheist also consider fictitious. There is about as much evidence for the existence of God, Lucifer, angels and demons as there is evidence for leprechauns, fairies, Bigfoot and yeti.

To be an atheist is to be unconvinced that gods and supernatural beings actually exist in reality.

How could Lucifer ever be atheist if he himself is a supernatural being? How could he ever say, "there is no god" if he himself has talked to and been in the presence of God?

Didn't you know? Everything bad is related to atheism.

 

[Eight Foot Manchild]

Also OP, crap like this,

Lucifer wasn't the childish devil figure who makes people do immoral things, Lucifer had much grander ideas, he was the promoter of Atheist ideology.......making himself God of coarse.

Thank you, irrationalists of the board, for continuing to prove my point for me.

 

[Eudaimonist]

I am just surprisingly overwhelmed by the number of athiests and agnostics on Christian Forums. I'm not hating you for it, go head, do you! I was just wondering...why?

1) I enjoy philosophical conversation.
2) It's a small world and there are many Christians living in the West. Nothing is solved by hiding in a bunker somewhere.
3) I feel that it is worthwhile to challenge the stigmas that atheists have among Christians, especially in America. (See Colter's ridiculous anti-atheist views.)
4) There are some interesting posters to interact with at CF, including non-Christians.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Colter]

You don't understand atheism.

Lucifer is one of those characters that atheist also consider fictitious. There is about as much evidence for the existence of God, Lucifer, angels and demons as there is evidence for leprechauns, fairies, Bigfoot and yeti.

To be an atheist is to be unconvinced that gods and supernatural beings actually exist in reality.

How could Lucifer ever be atheist if he himself is a supernatural being? How could he ever say, "there is no god" if he himself has talked to and been in the presence of God?

Lucifer knew his creator brother, a Son of God, but Lucifer lived by faith in the unseen Universal Father, the Father of Jesus. Lucifer made all the same arguments that Atheist make. He also took himself too seriously, his mischief making pride had gone too far to ever allow him to admit he had been wrong.

 

[bhsmte]

Lucifer knew his creator brother, a Son of God, but Lucifer lived by faith in the unseen Universal Father, the Father of Jesus. Lucifer made all the same arguments that Atheist make. He also took himself too seriously, his mischief making pride had gone too far to ever allow him to admit he had been wrong.

You seem to be quite confident in your claimed knowledge of Lucifer.

 

[Colter]

You seem to be quite confident in your claimed knowledge of Lucifer.

Yes, it comes from the Urantia revelation, we now know all about what happened.

 

[True Scotsman]

No, Lucifer was trying to set mankind free from what he saw as a fraudulent, unfair, indoctrinating regeim maintained by the perpetuation of a fictitious deity, a fraud created by the Paradise Sons of this unseen deity.

Lucifer wasn't the childish devil figure who makes people do immoral things, Lucifer had much grander ideas, he was the promoter of Atheist ideology.......making himself God of coarse.

Colter,

We don't believe in Satan either. At least I've never met an atheist who does.

 

[bhsmte]

Yes, it comes from the Urantia revelation, we now know all about what happened.

Yes, another book with all the answers, but no evidence to support it's claims.

Whatever works for you.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Lucifer knew his creator brother, a Son of God, but Lucifer lived by faith in the unseen Universal Father, the Father of Jesus. Lucifer made all the same arguments that Atheist make. He also took himself too seriously, his mischief making pride had gone too far to ever allow him to admit he had been wrong.

Well then maybe God should.... I don't know, be more evident?

If even Lucifer had his doubts about God's existence, how could we ever be expected to believe He exists?

The thing you need to understand is that atheists are being honest in their disbelief. They look at what theists present as 'evidence' and they simply don't arrive at the same conclusion that you arrived at. Should that be punishable?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Didn't you know? Everything bad is related to atheism.

Ahh, yes! How silly of me to forget.

 

[Davian]

I am just surprisingly overwhelmed by the number of athiests and agnostics on Christian Forums. I'm not hating you for it, go head, do you! I was just wondering...why?

The previous "skeptical" forum I was on was desperately short of theists with which to converse. They would come in, guns blazing, claiming evidence for their god, fail to produce said evidence, descend into preaching, be warned not to keep preaching, and then get banned for preaching.

Now, the preaching looks just as foolish here, but sometimes serious discussion can emerge.

I don't believe in Buddha. But you don't see me arguing over him for hours, talking about him, thinking about him... I don't believe in Allah. But you don't see me arguing over him for hours, thinking about him, convincing others he's not true. I don't believe in Zeus or the other gods from mythology, but you don't see me on a Mythology Forum arguing why it's not true, spending hours debating over something I don't believe.

Neither do I.

So why do atheists? I don't have any numbers, but from my observations over the years it seems like atheists are so... fired-up when it comes to disproving God. Why bother? If you don't believe it's true then why spend so much time, emotion, and energy convincing others you're right? To the point where you come to a Christian Forum? Why? What benefit are you receiving? Why not just be okay with it, "I don't believe in God, now I'm going to live my life." Why do you have to argue about Him all the time to the point to where it seems all you think about is how He's not real?

If theists could keep their unevidenced and unfalsifiable assertions out of the government and education systems, such as science class and books, then I would not take issue with them.

It seems so pointless. So, overall, why? Do you feel like it's your moral duty to try and convince the billions of people you're right? Is it the right thing to do in your eyes?

No, they are free to believe in whatever the want - gods, fairies, pixies, Bermuda triangles, and extraterrestrial aliens visiting Earth.

However, if they would like to present the reason why they believe in such things in a forum such as this, should they not be scrutinized?

I just find it crazy how emotional atheists are over trying to debunk something they don't believe in, not specifically people on these forums but outside of it too.
Who are you trying to convince more, us or yourself?

When I joined this forum, I had a few doubts, that maybe there was something to religion, something I may have missed. In the time that I have been here, those doubts have been erased.

 

[Colter]

Colter,

We don't believe in Satan either. At least I've never met an atheist who does.

Yes I know that, but that doesn't mean he didn't exist, just that you don't get it.

 

[Colter]

Yes, another book with all the answers, but no evidence to support it's claims.

Whatever works for you.

Some of the claims of the UB have been substantiated and yes, it does work for me much more so than the morbid worldview of Atheisms doctrines of death.

Kim Jung-un gives us a picture of the Atheist utopia.

 

[bhsmte]

Some of the claims of the UB have been substantiated and yes, it does work for me much more so than the morbid worldview of Atheisms doctrines of death.

Kim Jung-un gives us a picture of the Atheist utopia.

Please tell us more about the morbid world view of atheists.

 

[Davian]

Some of the claims of the UB have been substantiated and yes, it does work for me much more so than the morbid worldview of Atheisms doctrines of death.

Kim Jung-un gives us a picture of the Atheist utopia.

Does it look like this?