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That's an old women's tale.... nothing about it true.I thought the men and women became the demonic spirits. That God had to start again.
What kind of death?Yes human beings still die regardless if they are saved or not.
What kind of death?
Do you mean physical death or spiritual death? Or both?
Because of what God's nature is for the satisfaction of justice. By American law, a person is punished for their own crimes, and God is mostly like that, but there is an exception. Someone else can pay for a person's sins if they meet certain qualifications. If they do, they are called a kinsman-redeemer. The Law given to Moses (a reflection of God's nature) about this is in Leviticus 25 (and snippets in other places). The book of Ruth gives us an illustration of what a kinsman-redeemer is. (Ruth 4)
To qualify as a kinsman-redeemer a person must:
1. be a blood relative. (Lev. 25:25, 49; Jer. 32:7-8; Heb. 2:11-14) [which is why God had to became fully man]
2. be willing to pay (Ruth 4:6, John 3:16, et. al.)
3. be able to pay (a slave doesn't have the authority to redeem another slave) [Jesus was qualified because he was without sin, Heb 4:15, Rom. 3:23; specifically, he was not a son of Adam, See Rom. 5]
Since the punishment for sin is death (Rom. 6:23), Jesus chose to die in our place.
Note that the above verses also reveal that Jesus redeemed mankind’s “land” (the Earth that God gave them but they lost when they became slaves to sin).
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. (Mat. 5:17, 1984 NIV)
(Edited to remove a questionable assertion.)
What kind of death?
Do you mean physical death or spiritual death? Or both?
Sure it is. Read the Genesis account. Sin caused spiritual death, and spiritual death made necessary physical death. (Gen. 3:22-24, 6:3)
Nothing in the Genesis account shows physical death was a result of his sin in fact since he died the day he sinned we know physical death was not the death promised to him to happen that same day. There was no "you will die that day, then you will die hundreds of years later also" as part of his punishment.
Physical death is purely a result of being created mortal. Any human will die whether they are sinless or they have sinned or sinned and were forgiven.
They died spiritually in the day that they ate, and physically many years later. The loss of spiritual life and the need to be prevented from living physically forever, all stems from their sin. Or do you think God was wrong when He declared that if not barred from the tree of life man would live forever??
The kinsman-redeemer scenario in both Lev. 25 and Ruth 4 have nothing to do with “paying” for sin, but deal with property and slavery. No one is even taking the place for a slave, but money is being exchanged. This all has to do with money payments and nothing about sin.Because of what God's nature is for the satisfaction of justice. By American law, a person is punished for their own crimes, and God is mostly like that, but there is an exception. Someone else can pay for a person's sins if they meet certain qualifications. If they do, they are called a kinsman-redeemer. The Law given to Moses (a reflection of God's nature) about this is in Leviticus 25 (and snippets in other places). The book of Ruth gives us an illustration of what a kinsman-redeemer is. (Ruth 4)
To qualify as a kinsman-redeemer a person must:
1. be a blood relative. (Lev. 25:25, 49; Jer. 32:7-8; Heb. 2:11-14,17) [which is why God had to became fully man]
2. be willing to pay (Ruth 4:6, John 3:16, et. al.)
3. be able to pay (a slave doesn't have the authority to redeem another slave) [Jesus was qualified because he was without sin, Heb 4:15, Rom. 3:23; specifically, he was not a son of Adam, See Rom. 5]
Since the punishment for sin is death (Rom. 6:23), Jesus chose to die in our place.
Note that the above verses also reveal that Jesus redeemed mankind’s “land” (the Earth that God gave them but they lost when they became slaves to sin).
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. (Mat. 5:17, 1984 NIV)
(Edited to add a verse reference [Heb. 2:17].)
There is no substitution since the person stepping up is not taking the place of the slave. It is about God given property management (including slaves).They have everything to do with it. The Law reveals God's nature—in this case, as it applies to slavery and redemption.
Why did Jesus have to die? This is the question posed. Most of us will come back with a programmed response, but who among us have deeply studied this question?
Christ's death looked foolish. He scorned the shame. But it had to be that the Christ engaged the powers that work upon his beloved Adamic race. He by best judgement had to do it by being a man and dying. So to engage all 39 types of sickness, sin, and death. He rose with the power over all from within the Adamic race as God clothes us from within and starts with the heart, not the skin...
Jesus explained in the Gospel that the angels could not judge us, and that the vineyard servants would slay the owner, so to lure Satan to apply the power of death to him, it had to seem he could be overcome. And that God's powers would become his as he had wanted from the time iniquity was found in him.
Jesus knew Satan would misjudge and his powers would be crushed for us and others to have peace. No more fear of death and later, no more death. Good health, good character and eternal life in Christ, our compassionate high priest who knows us intimately.
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