Why Debate Scripture?

[Dave L]

Why not post your view. And have those who disagree post their views. Debating means either one or both do not understand scripture. If both understand scripture, there is no debate.

I like the Apologists who do not merely preach the gospel. they attach a ball and chain to their legs while doing it.

 

[Kilk1]

Why not post your view. And have those who disagree post their views. Debating means either one or both do not understand scripture. If both understand scripture, there is no debate.

I like the Apologists who do not merely preach the gospel. they attach a ball and chain to their legs while doing it.

I didn't get the meaning of the second paragraph, but other than that, amen!

 

[Charlie24]

Why not post your view. And have those who disagree post their views. Debating means either one or both do not understand scripture. If both understand scripture, there is no debate.

I like the Apologists who do not merely preach the gospel. they attach a ball and chain to their legs while doing it.

Dave, I certainly can't argue against your view. I would have no Biblical ground to stand.

But I see it this way. In this setting, a forum where many come to learn and maybe decide what to believe, the debates are a plus.

It gives those folks an opportunity to see several sides to any given topic. If they are truly searching for the truth, I believe God will point them in the right direction.

God searches the deep things in the heart of man. If man desires the truth God will see that he receives the truth. It all depends if that person will seek God for that truth.

I probably argue these different topics especially salvation more than anyone. But I'm not arguing for the sake of argument, I'm thinking of these folks with every sentence I form.

 

[Dave L]

Dave, I certainly can't argue against your view. I would have no Biblical ground to stand.

But I see it this way. In this setting, a forum where many come to learn and maybe decide what to believe, the debates are a plus.

It gives those folks an opportunity to see several sides to any given topic. If they are truly searching for the truth, I believe God will point them in the right direction.

God searches the deep things in the heart of man. If man desires the truth God will see that he receives the truth. It all depends if that person will seek God for that truth.

I probably argue these different topics especially salvation more than anyone. But I'm not arguing for the sake of argument, I'm thinking of these folks with every sentence I form.

But it creates heated arguments between the uninformed "but right anyway".

 

[Dave L]

I didn't get the meaning of the second paragraph, but other than that, amen!

The apologists pick fights while preaching the gospel.....

 

[Charlie24]

But it creates heated arguments between the uninformed "but right anyway".

If wisdom from God is being searched, and I believe it is by some, it's an opportunity for God to reveal His truth.

Those you are referring to have not set their hearts for truth from God.

 

[Dave L]

If wisdom from God is being searched, and I believe it is by some, it's an opportunity for God to reveal His truth.

Those you are referring to have not set their hearts for truth from God.

Nothing like self study.

 

[Charlie24]

Nothing like self study.

I agree Brother!

 

[Cross Over the Lake]

I don’t understand the debating as well. I tend to be led by my Church leaders. It doesn’t mean I don’t get something out of some of these debates, but at the same time it’s hard on my heart to see the argument. Right and wrong is pretty cut and dry for me. I read the Bible and the Word meets me where I am at, I find reading some of these debates have the potential to take me away from that.

 

[thecolorsblend]

Why not post your view. And have those who disagree post their views. Debating means either one or both do not understand scripture. If both understand scripture, there is no debate.

I like the Apologists who do not merely preach the gospel. they attach a ball and chain to their legs while doing it.

The entire problem is that we’re all perfectly clear on what Sacred Scripture says.

What it actually means is where the differences of opinion come in.

 

[Kilk1]

The apologists pick fights while preaching the gospel.....

Christians should "Fight the good fight of faith ..." (2 Tim. 6:12, NKJV), so there's a sense in which Christians should fight for what's right. Another passage is 2 Cor. 10:4-5, which describes "casting down arguments" as part of "the weapons of our warfare."

 

[Dave L]

Christians should "Fight the good fight of faith ..." (2 Tim. 6:12, NKJV), so there's a sense in which Christians should fight for what's right. Another passage is 2 Cor. 10:4-5, which describes "casting down arguments" as part of "the weapons of our warfare."

But many times we are debating wicked spirits beyond the reach of the gospel.

 

[Dave L]

Christians should "Fight the good fight of faith ..." (2 Tim. 6:12, NKJV), so there's a sense in which Christians should fight for what's right. Another passage is 2 Cor. 10:4-5, which describes "casting down arguments" as part of "the weapons of our warfare."

I see that more as the war we fight within.

 

[Lazarus Short]

Remember that it says in Proverbs that iron sharpens iron, so hopefully debate brings about understanding. Hopefully.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

I tend to be led by my Church leaders.

Be careful study the scriptures to prove them correct

Matthew 7:21-23 King James Version (KJV)
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

 

[Charlie24]

Remember that it says in Proverbs that iron sharpens iron, so hopefully debate brings about understanding. Hopefully.

That is a good point Laz! But only if the weaker vessel in Christ is willing for his iron to be sharpened.

Many times in my life I have submitted to the stronger vessel in Christ and realized my iron is being sharpened.

Online it's much harder to submit because we are not necessarily aware who is the stronger vessel. And in many cases the weaker vessel considers himself the stronger vessel when he is not.

Where is your heart with the Lord when considering such things? He will show you if we put Him first.

 

[Lazarus Short]

That is a good point Laz! But only if the weaker vessel in Christ is willing for his iron to be sharpened.

Many times in my life I have submitted to the stronger vessel in Christ and realized my iron is being sharpened.

Online it's much harder to submit because we are not necessarily aware who is the stronger vessel. And in many cases the weaker vessel considers himself the stronger vessel when he is not.

Where is your heart with the Lord when considering such things? He will show you if we put Him first.

All too often, a debate position is working against a mental or spiritual stronghold, and too often it is a church doctrine. Those tend to be very resistant to facts and even clearly quoted Scripture...

 

[chevyontheriver]

Why not post your view. And have those who disagree post their views. Debating means either one or both do not understand scripture. If both understand scripture, there is no debate.

If Scripture was obvious in it's meaning there would be no need for debating it's meaning. We would all just agree.

 

[Charlie24]

All too often, a debate position is working against a mental or spiritual stronghold, and too often it is a church doctrine. Those tend to be very resistant to facts and even clearly quoted Scripture...

Where do we go to determine sound doctrine?

I say, "In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths."
Prov. 3:6

 

[Kenny'sID]

Debating means either one or both do not understand scripture. If both understand scripture, there is no debate.

The problem there is, what if someone is teaching, or even giving others the wrong idea of scripture, wrong ideas that might lead to hell?

Example... Stating we only need to say we have faith in order to get to heaven, and acting as we wish, living in sin, or doing whatever sin we choose will not cause us to loose our salvation, no matter how evil.

So, whatever side of that one may be on, some simply will not sit still for lies such as that, or for that matter, any gross twisting of the word of God.