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Paypal serves over 250 nations, it's from California.
Do you know that they actually do business with people who imprison and execute? Have you actually seen their records? Because not everyone in a country imprisons and executes. If you don't know for sure that they do business with those people, it's slanderous to say they do.
As long as that fight doesn't actually cost them much money and just brings them lots of free advertising.Why is Paypal supposed to fight foreign governments?
And they are renowned as a company for being LGBTQ-friendly.
One fight at a time ...
You didn't put a lot of thought into this argument did you?Do you know that they actually do business with people who imprison and execute? Have you actually seen their records? Because not everyone in a country imprisons and executes. If you don't know for sure that they do business with those people, it's slanderous to say they do.
Sure. Then a transwoman will go to the women's bathroom because it is the correct bathroom. Problem solved. Glad you agree.Sorry, but "GO TO THE CORRECT BATHROOM"
does not make anyone a victim.
OK.NO, I questioned the OP on why PayPal boycotting NC is "bullying" but his own boycott is not. I never made any claims about boycotting being bullying.
Probably because the claim for why PP isn't opening in NC is not consistent with an actual human rights objection to NC law when PP is open in countries that violently oppose human rights. Making their companies operating ethic appear indifferent to human suffering and lethal violence, while standing opposed to laws that segregate a person's right of access to pee.PayPal is refusing to open a new office in NC therefore costing them revenue and jobs. That is a boycott. Why is one bullying and the other not?
You're not aware that companies are populated by living things? As are economies?I don't think companies are capable of being afraid since they are not living things. Same with economies.
This is probably because you've missed the point.I see. So PayPal should feel bad for opposing what they see as discriminatory laws because it is possible they could of hired someone who was LGBTQ? Seems a bit off there.
Not in the least. It proves PP is inconsistent in their claim of being an inclusive company invested in the protection of civil and human rights. PayPal doesn't vote with their dollars where they think it makes a difference when they're doing business in countries that slaughter people in the name of the same kind of intolerance PP says they oppose in North Carolina.OK. This is supposed to prove what exactly? That PayPal only votes with their dollars where they think it might make a difference?
I don't need to. I know that crafting a state law specifically to invalidate a local law is not democracy.
Sounds like PayPal.It is. What I find even more surprising is those who claim it is OK for them to do but not for those they disagree with.
The door on stalls that is referred to by those who support Trans access and thus privacy says you're wrong.Public restrooms are, by definition, not private.
Way to miss the entire discussion point.Yes. No one is arguing to use the woman's room because it is private.
No.No, that is not sexist. Sexist is saying "all men are simply waiting to get into the woman's room to get their jollies".
Everyone should be safe to use the bathroom. Unfortunately, supporters of Transuse of bathrooms fail to see the inroad that affords the predator kind who can use that avenue of disguise, a man dressing as a woman, to threaten the safety of women. Shouldn't women feel safe in a bathroom?As far as safety is concerned there is a large body of statistics showing that transgenders are much more likely to be subject to violence. There are no statistics showing that women are placed in danger simply by allowing transgenders to use a bathroom. Shouldn't the safety of the transgender people be important as well?
Every community in America has members that are victims of murder and violence.Transgenders are murdered in America for being who they are. That is part of the point of this whole debate.
No, it is done so the law is applied universally across a state and you don't have a patchwork of laws that are confusing and easy to violate. State law is supreme in state jurisdiction just as federal law is supreme in federal jurisdiction.....very simple.I don't need to. I know that crafting a state law specifically to invalidate a local law is not democracy.
Sure. Then a transwoman will go to the women's bathroom because it is the correct bathroom. Problem solved. Glad you agree.
Apparently you really don't understand the bill. The bill states that one must use the restroom of the gender on their birth certificate. There are transgendered people who have physically made a complete transformation, and they are now victims because they have to use the bathroom of the other gender.Sorry, but "GO TO THE CORRECT BATHROOM"
does not make anyone a victim.
Why don't you explain it to us?
Free publicity, of course -- did you really need it explained to you?
I'm wondering what the point is behind the faux outrage is... not on PayPal's part; their motivation is obvious... I mean yours.[/QUOTE]
And the bolded is what you were really referring to......So, again....why don't you explain it to us....Instead of just retreating into snarky one liners.....
Exploiting trans issues for free publicity?So far as I'm aware, Paypal is an American company. It is doing - or not doing - what it needs to do here.
You would have a point if "every product they purchase" is being preachy about LGBT rights when it comes to bathrooms but silent when it comes to LGBT people getting killed by the other countries they do business with.But before everyone starts jumping on Paypal for doing business in countries where democracy is not observed, they should look at every product they purchase, at every investment they make, and basically every single thing they do in their daily business, because absolutely nobody's hands are clean.
OK.
Probably because the claim for why PP isn't opening in NC is not consistent with an actual human rights objection to NC law when PP is open in countries that violently oppose human rights. Making their companies operating ethic appear indifferent to human suffering and lethal violence, while standing opposed to laws that segregate a person's right of access to pee.
I am not aware of that. Currency has never struck me as alive.You're not aware that companies are populated by living things? As are economies?
This is probably because you've missed the point.
PayPal isn't opposed to discriminatory practices as a company ethic or else they'd not do business in countries that violently oppose human rights. Therein this supposed decision to scrap supposed plans to open in NC is an effort to what?
Oppose the will of the people of NC, the legislative process, morality, standards and practice in the governing of NC public policy? While claiming they're all about the human right for Trans to pee where they wish, but are perfectly OK with doing business in countries that murder people for being gay or transsexuals
That's not only hypocritical but evidence of the falsehood that PP has any concern for human rights at all. They're not going to open in NC because transsexuals aren't allowed to use opposite of their birth sex bathrooms as long as said Trans has their God given genitalia while identifying as the opposite sex.
Meanwhile, PP invests in the economy of and employs the citizens of middle eastern countries that excise the female genitalia , execute people in the name of Sharia Law, and murder the very community members that PP says they're standing with when they refuse to open in an American state.
That doesn't seem, it is a bit off there.
Not in the least. It proves PP is inconsistent in their claim of being an inclusive company invested in the protection of civil and human rights. PayPal doesn't vote with their dollars where they think it makes a difference when they're doing business in countries that slaughter people in the name of the same kind of intolerance PP says they oppose in North Carolina.
Sounds like PayPal.
The door on stalls that is referred to by those who support Trans access and thus privacy says you're wrong.
Way to miss the entire discussion point.
No.
Everyone should be safe to use the bathroom. Unfortunately, supporters of Transuse of bathrooms fail to see the inroad that affords the predator kind who can use that avenue of disguise, a man dressing as a woman, to threaten the safety of women. Shouldn't women feel safe in a bathroom?
Every community in America has members that are victims of murder and violence.
Women's privacy and safety shouldn't have to concede to Transwomen's right to access private spaces even when they are open to the public.
As most know, that's the reason stall's have doors. Privacy. Setting the precedent that Trans can enter into a bathroom then opens the door of access to other area's that are gender restricted.
No, it is done so the law is applied universally across a state and you don't have a patchwork of laws that are confusing and easy to violate. State law is supreme in state jurisdiction just as federal law is supreme in federal jurisdiction.....very simple.
So you are claiming that if PayPal does not attempt to use it's influence in every location it operates to better LGBTQ causes it does not really believe in those causes?
It's kind of hard to make the claim that we do while supporting two of the worst violators doesn't it?So until the US stops supporting China and Saudi Arabia we don't care about Human rights violations?
You would have a point if "every product they purchase" is being preachy about LGBT rights when it comes to bathrooms but silent when it comes to LGBT people getting killed by the other countries they do business with.
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