Why Christians need Satan

[bt_st_At]

Yeah it's true Christains and all of human kind need Satan...Humans have this thing were we feel we have to have someone to blame for all the things we do wrong. "Oh it was my sin's fault. Oh the Devil made me do it" We as people need to start taking responsiblity. We are evil people and it's no one's fault we're human.

 

[Outspoken]

Yeah it's true Christains and all of human kind need Satan...Humans have this thing were we feel we have to have someone to blame for all the things we do wrong. "Oh it was my sin's fault. Oh the Devil made me do it" We as people need to start taking responsiblity. We are evil people and it's no one's fault we're human.

You've got to be joking. There is no christian that says, "the devil made me do it." they are accountable for their own actions, that is what repentence is all about.

 

[Heathen Dawn]

Christians need Satan to explain the evil in the world and to explain the fact of other religions than Christianity. To be fair to the Christians, Satan isn’t their invention—he was originally invented by the Zoroastrians under the name of Angra Mainyu, the God of Evil. Zoroastrianism has captivated the souls of the Abrahamic religions wholesale.

 

[Outspoken]

Christians need Satan to explain the evil in the world and to explain the fact of other religions than Christianity. To be fair to the Christians, Satan isn’t their invention—he was originally invented by the Zoroastrians under the name of Angra Mainyu, the God of Evil. Zoroastrianism has captivated the souls of the Abrahamic religions wholesale.

Ahh conspircy theories abound.

 

[Heathen Dawn]

Ahh conspircy theories abound.

What conspiracy theory? Satan was just one of the angels in the OT (in Job; he doesn’t make any appearence in Genesis). His being elevated to the embodiment of evil did not occur until after the rise of the Achemenid Persian Empire.

 

[Lifesaver]

We are evil people and it's no one's fault we're human.

But do tell me: once evil is recognized, should we repell or embrace it?

 

[Shekinahs]

You've got to be joking. There is no christian that says, "the devil made me do it." they are accountable for their own actions, that is what repentence is all about.

Oh yea they are. People say all the time "What the devil got into me?"

 

[Outspoken]

Oh yea they are. People say all the time "What the devil got into me?"

yeah, and if they are serious then they are speaking wrongly.

 

[Outspoken]

What conspiracy theory? Satan was just one of the angels in the OT (in Job; he doesn’t make any appearence in Genesis). His being elevated to the embodiment of evil did not occur until after the rise of the Achemenid Persian Empire.

ahh more conspircy theories....

 

[SqueezetheShaman]

You've got to be joking. There is no christian that says, "the devil made me do it." they are accountable for their own actions, that is what repentence is all about.

WHAT???are you new? lol You hear that all the time. Just in another thread you said you dont hear people threaten non christians with hell. I have homework tonight. After the kids go to bed, I am going to do some searching for you. Not trying to "win" or anything, just want you to lose this perfect picture of many of christs followers.

me thinketh thou doth protest too much

 

[Outspoken]

WHAT???are you new? lol You hear that all the time. Just in another thread you said you dont hear people threaten non christians with hell. I have homework tonight. After the kids go to bed, I am going to do some searching for you. Not trying to "win" or anything, just want you to lose this perfect picture of many of christs followers.

me thinketh thou doth protest too much

You misunderstand me. I in no way say that christians are perfect. If a christian really knows what God says he will not say the devil made him do it, for that is just a cop out, for the devil can't make you do anything if you are a christian.

 

[Achichem]

Oh yea they are. People say all the time "What the devil got into me?"

Is that false, think about it, in a way Satan is unique paradox, he lives[mimics life] yet he does not as other life[he is not life at all], beget life or create life, but instead destroys life.

If we were indeed "bad" by nature that would mean all we touch dies, that indeed we are destroyers. That would then mean that the external force would be "good" and good would be the life which creates in our wake of destruction.[we would by law of our reality destroy, all things] Yet this is not the case.

We can both create and destroy, then it is quickly assumed that we then must be both or natural, yet that two is flawed. If we were indeed "both" that would mean that life and death (black and white, light and dark) could exist together one upon the other, yet life destroys death, and death life. It would then be that the more "good" someone got the greater their life would become and the more "bad" one got the shorter, this however is also not the case.

Let us suppose then we are "good" and that death was an eternal force(Satan) then it is simple, we are living beings struggling with an eternal force know as death(personified: Satan)This would make sense in many ways, for the source of life would then have a connection to us and give us live accordingly to a stander of rules(health, physical, laws of the universe...) in opposition these rules is a force which is "bad" and it's the cause of destruction, yet has no direct connection to life cycles because it is external. Yet can effect the life contain within the environment by destruction.

Yet there are still a problem when apply to idea of Satan:
That would be that if such wouldn’t life then be equal to power to death, yet this is not necessarily the case, for if one was to be external in our environment (which demonstrate the same living principles), which is life different from the source [assumption].Such would mean that the characteristic of this force are indeed created, and is not a force of balance toward the source at all. But instead, a balance for the environment, which is separate from the source, and in so Satan only has the power allot to him by the owner of this world, which must be life source, pure life, the ponit.

I know it probably just a bunch of gibberish, in which case, just ignore and think of it as another crazy theory by datsar

 

[Isis-Astoroth]

Scapegoat is the word that comes to mind when I see this thread.

 

[Achichem]

Scapegoat is the word that comes to mind when I see this thread.

Actually, I do believe that satan is in fact the scape goat, the real one, the one spoken about and represented in yom kippur.

That why that my friend is a most excellent ponit.

 

[coyoteBR]

And, to be fair, some Christians don't believe on Satan or demons...

 

[Miss Shelby]

You've got to be joking. There is no christian that says, "the devil made me do it." they are accountable for their own actions, that is what repentence is all about.

outspoken,

I'm not trying to stalk you around or anything, but come one. There ARE Christians who say this. Not all of them do, but certainly some. Will you at least admit that much?

Michelle

 

[Doctrine1st]

You've got to be joking. There is no christian that says, "the devil made me do it." they are accountable for their own actions, that is what repentence is all about.

Maybe wrong, but could have sworn those were Jimmy Swaggart's exact words.

 

[bt_st_At]

But do tell me: once evil is recognized, should we repell or embrace it?

That I would say is up to you...I personally wouldn't I do, do evil things but I can admit them and that is always the first step. The second would be to stop doing it but again as hard as I may try I am only human

 

[radorth]

I'm not trying to stalk you around or anything, but come one. There ARE Christians who say this. Not all of them do, but certainly some. Will you at least admit that much?

This is a perfect example of the ignorance and nonsensical beliefs about Christians we see here. I have known 400 or 500 Christians and I never once heard any one of them use that as an excuse. They recognize the spirit of anti-Christ and his lies, but they don't say "He made me do it." They know it is their responsibility just as OS has said.

Well done Outspoken.

Not that the devil ever wins here. Heh heh.

I don't ever say the devil made me do it, as his spirit doesn't control me anymore. I sometimes however use it as an excuse for non-Christians.

Rad

 

[radorth]

Just in another thread you said you dont hear people threaten non christians with hell...After the kids go to bed, I am going to do some searching for you. Not trying to "win" or anything, just want you to lose this perfect picture of many of christs followers.

We don't even know for sure if Hitler went to hell, so no, we don't threaten people with hell. Do we think some unbelievers will end up there? Yes, we do, but we do not know who that is. You forget, we have the only "religion" which can save a thief in his death moment. It saved the chief of sinners, Paul, and John Newton, a slave trader who wrote Amazing Grace, not to mention us. So who are we to make these decisions?

Yes, do go do your homework and then stop making these assertions unless you can return with some proof.

Rad