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That IS hard to explain. That's why many of us reject the whole notion to begin with.I can see why that would be difficult to explain, much like YHWH's CHRIST being born of a "virgin", dying on the "cross" then resurrecting then ascending.
That IS hard to explain. That's why many of us reject the whole notion to begin with.
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Why aren't YOU a Christian?
I used to be a Christian. I stopped being one because it no longer made any sense.
I am not a Christian now because I can see no compelling reason why I should be.
français;39320094 said:Good question! There are many reasons why... Here is a list of some of the reasons. I might speak about some of them that really in particular lead me away from Christianity..
those are just a few. I mean I could make a list of dozens! But those are some of the main reasons
- Hell - By far one of the most disturbing things, and something that has always bugged me. You know, christians say that god is loving, and merciful, and kind. So why would this god send someone to hell! and eternally! You know, just because one does not accept christ, or allah, or whatever religion, does not mean they should be in hell. it does not make on a bad person. It breaks my heart to think that such innocent people could be in hell. Even if hell was not eternal, it is still gross!
- Gay rights - You know, I am gay, and I have many gay friends. And it is not something I chose. Now I do not hurt anyone. I have a boyfriend, and we do have sexual intercourse.. But no one gets hurt. It is between me and him. Yet some religion has the audacity to tell me that I should be PUT TO DEATH for being gay. (Leviticus, and yes for some odd reason Jesus "fulfilled" those laws, but it is still there, and was still applied at a time. also in the qu'ran to "hurt them"). You know, what kind of god does that! You know, I give a ton of my money to charity, I volunteer at an animal shelter, I am a vegetarian, I care for people, I give to the poor as much as I can, there is a kid at school who I am taking my personal time to try and help him with personal issues, and I try to be as loving as possible. I am still far from perfect, but I can at least say that I am a descent person. And simply because I have sex with my boyfriend, I should be put to death, and go to hell.. How sick!
- Evolution - Yeah, yeah, I have heard it before.. "Evolution and christianity are not exclusive." Hah, according to Paul, God is not the author of confusion. yet it looks like god confused us with his adam and ever creation stories and all that crap. same applies to other religions that hold such silly myths.
- Making one worship him - Talking about SADISTIC. "I am an all perfect god, yet i am going to create this satan, i know everything to, but i am going to let him cause trouble in this world, then i am going to force people to worship me." Jerk!
- Did you forget about the Indians! - Yeah, weird name I know, but I mean think about this.. Nowhere in the bible, qu'ran, veda's, anywhere does it mention that there are millions of indians on this other piece of land(The america's.) So not only did this god not tell us this information, but he did not send his christianity or islam or judaism to them!!
- An all powerful god would not let evil happen - If god is all powerful, all compassionate, and can do anything he want, then why can't he just stop all this evil and make everything good. Why can't he stop rapists from doing their horrible things to children, or stop murders? why does he allow such!
- Why a chosen nation? - why the jews and israel chosen? why not everyone totally equal! jews, christians, muslims, explanations please!
- Why doesn't he just prove that he exists! - I mean if god created us to worship him, then why doesn't he prove to us that he exists! It is only logical!
- The view of a perfect god - Definition of perfect is as follows:[SIZE=-1]being complete of its kind and without defect or blemish[from princeton university definition] . Ok, so if god is perfect, then he has NO defects. so he can NOT do evil. yet god created satan, as god created everything, am i wrong? and satan causes evil! so god can NOT be perfect if he allows such imperfection!
[/SIZE]- [SIZE=-1]Just show some proof! - I mean would it be so impossible to just show some proof of a god? I mean what is so impossible about that! Yet no one can!!
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I was Christian, even speak in tongues (still), but my understanding couldn't fit inside the confines of Christianity.
From a basic creed, I couldn't understand why a God, who had a relationship with David, Moses, etc., supposedly had severed his relationship with man. I questioned why it was important to kill a perfect sacrifice - how that would appease God in any way. I wouldn't be appeased if you killed your dog to show me how sorry you were. Why would God? I wouldn't demand that. Why wouldn't God?
The best that was offered was, "God's logic isn't our logic." That's man's logic - it makes no sense, i was given a mind to rationalize, but to believe in God, I must not think, argue, or come to my own conclusions.
In the 80s, while I was struggling to come out, and was kind of suicidal, the most vocal christians were talking about how evil gays were. They would even say that AIDS was God's Judgement, and one sin, in their opinion, was too much to join the church - homosexuality. You could get drunk, you could have premarital sex, you could take the name of the lord in vain, but you simply couldn't be gay.
By the 90s, people started showing compassion when "the gays" became a friend who died, and suddenly, there was some treatment of gay people as their neighbor and some understanding. However, one would think Christians would be leaders, not the followers.
Robertson, Bucchanon, and Falwell continue to see gays not as their neighbor, but as an enemy, the league of Satan to fight against, or to use for scapegoating and rally for money.
In Buddhism, there is far more logical sense. You purify the mind, which then purifies words and deeds, rather than work your way backward from your actions.
You also detach from desire, and don't worry about having things, status, etc.
I found that it is actually very much in the keeping of what Christ taught, and believe that the Heart of Christ come through any religion, and this is shown in Buddhism for me.
français;39506035 said:You make some great points!!
But all religions simply borrowed from The Bible and Christ.
Heh. Even the much older ones?
Heh. Even the much older ones?
Yes the oldest religious writings on earth are the Hebrew texts of the Old testament.
hristianinty and the New Testament are younger than some other false religions but Jesus himself taught form the OT the oldest .
Yes the oldest religious writings on earth are the Hebrew texts of the Old testament.
Hinduism is traced back farther than Judaism. It's older.
That first link there from EvC Forum doesn't support what you are saying. They mentioned the Egyptians, ancient cave drawings, etc.EvC Forum: What is the oldestreligious text?
I am of the opinion that the Hebrew writings are the oldest and best documented manuscripts ..... Though I'm not sure that it qualifies as a religious text, ...
www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=1&t... - 75k - Similar pages
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