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Jesus accepted that someone who was not of his group was healing in his name.
If there were a choice of "denominations" in the NT - I suppose I'd have to make some sort of choice.As an outsider, I see non-denominational churches as either Baptists or Charismatic Baptists. But, why don't they join one of the multitude of Baptist and Pentecostal denominations out there?
Is it a financial issue, in order to own our church building and not support a denomination? Or is it to be able to hire a pastor without qualifications? Or is it to be able to teach weird doctrine?
Forgive me. I just can't understand.
Note the first "denominations" in the NT - the "Pauls," the "Apollos'," the "Cephas'," and the "Christ's."For I have been informed concerning you, my brethren, by Chloe’s people, that there are quarrels among you. Now I mean this, that each one of you is saying, “I am of Paul,” and “I of Apollos,” and “I of Cephas,” and “I of Christ.” Has Christ been divided?
Jesus prayed for our UNITY, and a key part of His reason for praying thus was that in our UNITY, the world would thereby come to believe in Him.“I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word; that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.
There are some 33,000+ denominations out there right now. Which one(s) is/are "right?"
And it's more than just a matter of right/wrong - or even personality or preference.
At the heart of the issue is UNITY. Paul addressed this very issue in I Cor 1:11ff
It doesn't.So how does having 33,001 (counting the person who remains apart from all of them because he opposes disunity)...
make for more unity?
No, I was saying that many people insist that they are not going to be part of any denomination themselves because they value Christian unity: but by 'going it alone,' they are making themselves be, in effect, one more denomination. It's ironic. You see what I mean.It doesn't.
What do you think, that I was somehow stumping for 33,001 denominations??
Most nondenominational adherents oppose the additions to biblical teachings. They don’t want the creeds, theology, rituals, or ‘rightness’ some present.
They accepted Christ and that’s enough.
~Bella
I would think, then, that they would join one of the denominations that doesn't require that. .Most nondenominational adherents oppose the additions to biblical teachings. They don’t want the creeds, theology, rituals, or ‘rightness’ some present.
They accepted Christ and that’s enough.
I would think, then, that they would join one of the denominations that doesn't require that.
The "problem" they face in choosing is hardly any different from that faced by other believers who decide on one denomination rather than another.
I can appreciate the idea of non-denominationalism. But there is no denying that if Christian unity is to be advanced, both non-denominational congregations and people who refuse to participate with any congregation are, by definition, adding to the problem, not working against it.
Ah... I do. Thanks for clarifying.No, I was saying that many people insist that they are not going to be part of any denomination themselves because they value Christian unity: but by 'going it alone,' they are making themselves be, in effect, one more denomination. It's ironic. You see what I mean.
I don't think that's fair to say. Yes, my view about the paradox we have here of being all in favor of Christian unity but splitting oneself off from the rest of the Christian community at the same time, is a personal one. I tried to make that clear. Yes, that is my view for what it's worth.You’ve answered your question in that statement. “I would think”... But you aren’t me or anyone else. Your perspective is personal and in line with your beliefs, maturity, and experiences.
There is a difference between oneness and going to church. Our allegiance is with God. Not institutions. We aren’t responsible for the decline or required to fill in the gap.
To say such a thing as that is not what you just offered as your own explanation ("Our allegiance is with God. Not institutions.")
That may be true of some, but not all. With most nondenominational churches they have a church board that creates their statement of faith, some are charismatic and others are more formal. What I find interesting is when you find a spirit filled church with good leadership, you find a vibrant church where the membership is on fire and not just going through the motions.Most nondenominational adherents oppose the additions to biblical teachings. They don’t want the creeds, theology, rituals, or ‘rightness’ some present.
They accepted Christ and that’s enough.
~Bella
that's were God wants them no matter what shingle they hang on the church doors.
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