Why are we so much smarter?

[juvenissun]

No one here is denying that humans are smarter than other apes. We're simply pointing out that animals aren't all as "stupid" as you make them out to be. God blessed many creatures with intelligence. Not just us.

Here you go again.

 

[sago]

So, we are not evolved from apes.

Exactly right.

For exactly the same reason I am not the child of my parents.

 

[juvenissun]

Exactly right.

For exactly the same reason I am not the child of my parents.

The difference between you and your parents are NOTHING in compare with the difference between you and an ape. You are three degrees more than them. But I think you may not be wiser than them, may not be wiser than your grand parents.

This is the theme of my argument. The change of intelligence is simply off scale (no matter what scale you care to use). It can only be called creation, not evolution.

 

[sago]

The speed of a racing grayhound is simply offscale to the speed of a teacup Chihuahua...

The scale isn't important, it is the structure and mechanism by which they are supported. A chihuahua is the same species as a grayhound: they both have idential locomotive biology. They just differ in scale, and so their resulting movement differs in scale. We are apes: we have the same neural biology as other apes. We differ from an Orang, for example, in scale of different neural features, and so we differ in mental capacity as a result. I share almost all of my DNA with at least one of my parents. They are probably about as smart as I am. I had considerably more education than either of them, so my academic achievement differs as a result.

 

[Mallon]

This is the theme of my argument. The change of intelligence is simply off scale (no matter what scale you care to use). It can only be called creation, not evolution.

Sounds like an argument from ignorance if I've ever heard one. "I can't imagine how the human brain could have evolved, therefore it didn't."
Got any positive evidence in favour of creationism, rather than negative evidence contrary to (your understanding of) evolution?

 

[pgp_protector]

Are people so much smarter ?
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[juvenissun]

The speed of a racing grayhound is simply offscale to the speed of a teacup Chihuahua...

The scale isn't important, it is the structure and mechanism by which they are supported. A chihuahua is the same species as a grayhound: they both have idential locomotive biology. They just differ in scale, and so their resulting movement differs in scale. We are apes: we have the same neural biology as other apes. We differ from an Orang, for example, in scale of different neural features, and so we differ in mental capacity as a result. I share almost all of my DNA with at least one of my parents. They are probably about as smart as I am. I had considerably more education than either of them, so my academic achievement differs as a result.

The scale is VERY important.

If the scale of change is reasonable, then evolution could be true. Otherwise, it would be hard to think it is true.

In your example, the speed of car may not be so important, the existence of a car is important. Any animal invented something like a wheel? Why not? How much intelligence difference (put it on a scale) can you see in this example?

 

[juvenissun]

Sounds like an argument from ignorance if I've ever heard one. "I can't imagine how the human brain could have evolved, therefore it didn't."
Got any positive evidence in favour of creationism, rather than negative evidence contrary to (your understanding of) evolution?

Can you see my argument on this line is VERY positive? I did not attack any principles used in evolution.

 

[Mallon]

Can you see my argument on this line is VERY positive? I did not attack any principles used in evolution.

You don't have an "argument".
All you've said so far is:

"The change of intelligence is simply off scale (no matter what scale you care to use). It can only be called creation, not evolution."

You have presented no evidence here. You've not quantified nor qualified anything. You've simply said, 'humans are smart, therefore creation.' That's nothing more than a non-sequitur (and a rather embarassing defense of creationism).

 

[juvenissun]

You don't have an "argument".
All you've said so far is:

"The change of intelligence is simply off scale (no matter what scale you care to use). It can only be called creation, not evolution."

You have presented no evidence here. You've not quantified nor qualified anything. You've simply said, 'humans are smart, therefore creation.' That's nothing more than a non-sequitur (and a rather embarassing defense of creationism).

I qualified one thing. You did not.
I am trying to quantify it. You did not even try.

 

[Assyrian]

I am trying to quantify it. You did not even try.

Nah, you just go on about our intelligence being off the scale. The nearest thing to quantifying you come up with is picking huge numbers out of you hat and claiming we are a quintillion times more intelligent than an ape. In fact measurements of ape intelligence put their IQ between 40 and 70, or comparable to a toddler. It is difficult to measure intelligence, you describe it as a black box, nevertheless you are willing to ignore scientific measurements and make up your wild baseless claims out of your hat (black box?) that human intelligence is:
Human to ape ---> 10E20 to 10E2

The difference between human and ape abilities in toolmaking and culture easily fits ape intelligence being equivalent to a human toddler. This in turn fits well with humans having a brain three times the size of an ape's. How is this any different from giraffe having longer necks or elephant trunks being larger and more complex than any other mammal's?