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Ahh, now we are narrowing the goal posts to only smoking around chemicals? That wasn't the discussion.
Unless you have evidence that cig smoking actually inhibits a persons ability to do thier job, I vote that only the nicotine was going too far.It’s only narrowing if you ignore part of both my posts. In both I mentioned drug testing and smoking in a refinery. If we’re done with that point of order back to the question you left unanswered: were drug tests for illegal drugs big brother like or only those for nicotine?
Absolutely agree. And as others have posted. If the government and others can make money off it, who cares how many it kills.
In what way does the government make money off of tobacco? If you're referring to taxes on it, I am pretty sure that whatever money they make via taxes is less than the amount of money they have to spend due to health problems caused by smoking.
That's not what I asked. Noted that you avoided answering what I actually asked.
Apples and oranges.
Plus, who pays more for insurance : smokers or non-smokers? There seems to be another obvious parallel from the OP's observation.Actually, I like your comparison.
Let's prevent unvaccinated people from being in the same places people who smoke are prevented from smoking in. Like schools, restaurants, hospitals, aircraft, most businesses, theatres, public transport....
Also - let's have vaccine mandates for workers in the same way we have no smoking mandates for employees of businesses
Would that be fair?
If you think large corporations have too much power over normal citizens, feel free to lobby for additional government intervention on what the owners of the means of production can do.It's official. Big brother has to interfere with every aspect of people's lives.
The majority of people fired for failed drug tests were not inhibited from doing their job by the trace amounts of drug in their systems, especially THC which lingers so long after intoxication has departed, that those test returned as they are set well below the threshold of impairment.Unless you have evidence that cig smoking actually inhibits a persons ability to do thier job, I vote that only the nicotine was going too far.
No, you did not. Think about it - you made a statement that does not relate to the actual question I asked and you based it on an assumption that I would substitute words for the words you actually used and cello I somehow "sound exactly like an anti vaccination person". I asked a question, I didn't make a statement, you are glossing that over.Actually, I did indeed answer your question. Think about it. Look at your reasoning and substitute Covid for smoking and viola you sound exactly like an anti vaccination person.
- More than 16 million Americans are living with a disease caused by smoking.
- For every person who dies because of smoking, at least 30 people live with a serious smoking-related illness.
- Smoking causes cancer, heart disease, stroke, lung diseases, diabetes, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), which includes emphysema and chronic bronchitis.
- Smoking also increases risk for tuberculosis, certain eye diseases, and problems of the immune system, including rheumatoid arthritis.
- Smoking is a known cause of erectile dysfunction in males.
Smoking is the leading cause of preventable death.Where is the health mandate forbidding tobacco?
- Worldwide, tobacco use causes more than 7 million deaths per year.2 If the pattern of smoking all over the globe doesn’t change, more than 8 million people a year will die from diseases related to tobacco use by 2030.3
- Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day.1
- On average, smokers die 10 years earlier than nonsmokers.4
- If smoking continues at the current rate among U.S. youth, 5.6 million of today’s Americans younger than 18 years of age are expected to die prematurely from a smoking-related illness. This represents about one in every 13 Americans aged 17 years or younger who are alive today.1
Are we just being selective on what science to follow?
Having worked with smokers and potheads, I'll take the smokers.The majority of people fired for failed drug tests were not inhibited from doing their job by the trace amounts of drug in their systems, especially THC which lingers so long after intoxication has departed, that those test returned as they are set well below the threshold of impairment.
I have.The smoker needs his hit, but I've never seen where it inhibits thier work.
That's not true at all.Like smoking, or eating bacon, or any other choice a person makes...it's up to the individual to make those decisions for themselves; like injecting things into their bodies.
That's not true at all.
Or employing people who make the choice to prolong a deadly pandemic.Like smoking, or eating bacon, or any other choice a person makes...it's up to the individual to make those decisions for themselves; like injecting things into their bodies.
Eh. Depends on what you mean by enshrined in legal documents. The Declaration of Independence was a legal document in the sense that it was adopted by Congress, it had no actual effect on the law of the then 13 colonies. Even if you do count the Declaration, it was preceded by almost a hundred years by the English Bill of Rights which has the following section.Sure it is, but it's also the individual choice to completely throw liberty in the trash too. Anyone is free enough to condemn their own freedom and rights, as well as hold to personal and individual convictions that others' rights and liberties should be tramped on as well.
Never before America (that I am aware of) was the concept of "inalienable rights" enshrined in lawful documents; albeit one could loosely go all the way back to 1215 to the magna carta to make a case, but it's a loose case at best.
Now in pursuance of the premises the said Lords Spiritual and Temporal and Commons in Parliament assembled, for the ratifying, confirming and establishing the said declaration and the articles, clauses, matters and things therein contained by the force of law made in due form by authority of Parliament, do pray that it may be declared and enacted that all and singular the rights and liberties asserted and claimed in the said declaration are the true, ancient and indubitable rights and liberties of the people of this kingdom, and so shall be esteemed, allowed, adjudged, deemed and taken to be; and that all and every the particulars aforesaid shall be firmly and strictly holden and observed as they are expressed in the said declaration, and all officers and ministers whatsoever shall serve their Majesties and their successors according to the same in all time to come.
Not really - science can advise, not dictate.If it has - then science has failed to the tune of 480,000 preventable deaths a year.
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