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I'm interested to know which of Christ's teachings (or even expand it to all of Scripture as Christ believed in the authority of the OT) do you think are commonly neglected by Christians.
Could you even name a few that all Christians follow?
You live in luxury while people are starving. We know what Jesus said to the rich young ruler. What would he say to you?
I could name some that all Christians are theoretically committed to. No one follows the law of Christ perfectly. But that notion is built into Christianity. Are you asking for something that everyone follows perfectly without lapse?
You mean "us"? Do you think Jesus' message only applies if God exists, i.e., it's only good if someone demands it? And do you think Jesus requires us all to give up all of our wealth?
I know no one is perfect. But almost no one is making a genuine effort on these issues:
Sell all that you have and give to the poor
Do not worry about what you will eat or wear and have faith that God will provide
Bless those who curse you, love your enemies
Do good deeds for no reward, not even recognition
Perform miracles through faith
I know plenty of people who are making an effort on these issues.
Do you know any Christians IRL?
Have you ever been part of a Christian community?
So if the passage isn't part of extremist Christianity given the exegesis mentioned above, I guess we don't need to be talking about it in this way, afaik.
1. It's a good thing to sell your possessions and give to the poor
2. Why are you not doing it?
Because for me it's better to keep my possessions, so long as they're not exorbitant and I'm able to live without them (which is the implication of how we should relate to possessions under the domain of the kingdom of God), than to sell them all, seeing how if I sold them all I wouldn't be able to have a job and do my calling, among other things.
Secondly, what's best for any situation doesn't dictate how a person should act, and if it did the same would apply to you, so why aren't you doing it?
Irrelevant. Jesus said to trust God for your food and clothing. And Jesus was homeless. Yet look at what he apparently did. If you need money for your calling, the Lord will provide; if he doesn't, it's not your calling. It sounds like you have no faith at all.
I'm not doing it because it doesn't make sense for any human being to do it. Ever.
Jesus called us more to love. But you are right in that we do live in a rich country where we are very blessed. We should give more.You live in luxury while people are starving. We know what Jesus said to the rich young ruler. What would he say to you?
Jesus called us more to love. But you are right in that we do live in a rich country where we are very blessed. We should give more.
Then why would you expect someone else to do it? Because you like punishing them?
Yes, Jesus said to trust God for those things. Jesus was homeless doesn't mean we're called to be saviors and be homeless as well.
It sounds like you're a fundamentalist atheist.
Christian extremist: one who follows all of Christ's teachings without twisting them into something convenient that fits their lifestyle instead of selectively following some of them while going through pains to explain how certain things don't need to be followed.
No, I expect you to do it because your savior commands you to. If tomorrow we found in the Koran, "All Muslims must stand on one foot at all times, no exceptions," then wouldn't you go around asking Muslims why they aren't doing this? But hey, if you don't really care what Jesus said, that's your business in the end.
Do you honestly believe that Jesus would chastise you for giving all that you have to the poor and then wandering the world performing good works and preaching the gospel? Would he be angry and say that you are no longer able to do your calling because of financial issues? Would he say that you are lukewarm and that he wants to spew you from his mouth?
Not really.Yes. And one who lives in decadence and gluttony while the world is poor and starving is in a perpetual state of deliberate sin, no different from how you view the homosexual lifestyle.
Not really.
The most important commandment is to love God with all our heart, soul and mind. So there is something more important.
...and are we to suppose that you are a hermeneutical/exegetical expert on the Bible? That you've got all of the interpretations about the ethical aspects of the Bible all figured out, while we poor, ignorant, brutish Christians are merely languishing in our delusive assertions about how our personal "lifestyles" measure up to the Bible? Is that where we're at in this discussion? Is this the central issue for you?
And if it is, your pretense to being an interpretive expert on Biblical ethics and morality seems to be antithetical to your also being a Nihilist. Moreover, I find it fascinating that as a Nihilist, you seem to imply that there is a truth to the matters of biblical morality and ethics, or any kind of morality and ethics, as if truth has some kind of "real" meaning and significance.
Or, am I just misunderstanding the banter, rhetoric, and epithets you whimsically toss about?
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