Why are there Disabilities?

[TheKingOfImmortality]

If God Created all living things to be perfect machines then why are there people born with Disabilities? Deaf, Blindness, Mute, Austism, Down Syndrome, ADD, ADHD, Asperger Syndrome, teres syndrome, dwarfism, cancer, Turner syndrome, Tay-Sachs disease, Neurofibromatosis, and others? (No Offences ment to anyone reading this who falls in with any of theses, I count as one to)




Do these not disprove the whole eye ball argument by showing there are people born who are not perfectly built as ID claims?


As a man with Asperger Syndrome I would like to know.

 

[[serious]]

I assume the response will be "the fall" instead of "imperfect replicators"

 

[plindboe]

Fruit-did-it

 

[Gracchus]

This belongs in General Apologetics. OOPS. Sorry, that is defunct.

 

[AV1611VET]

If God Created all living things to be perfect machines then why are there people born with Disabilities?

"Perfect machines"?

He created us perfect, but the Fall is responsible for our maladies --- past and present.

 

[TheKingOfImmortality]

"Perfect machines"?

He created us perfect, but the Fall is responsible for our maladies --- past and present.

I afraid to ask but are you saying we are being punished by God?

 

[AV1611VET]

I afraid to ask but are you saying we are being punished by God?

I don't think "punished" is the word --- more like "victims" --- although I'm sure there's a better word for it.

 

[Washington]

I don't think "punished" is the word --- more like "victims" --- although I'm sure there's a better word for it.

I think "victim" is a very good word for the object of god's action.

Main Entry: vic·tim
Pronunciation: \ˈvik-təm\
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin victima; perhaps akin to Old High German wīh holy
Date: 15th century

1: a living being sacrificed to a deity or in the performance of a religious rite2: one that is acted on and usu. adversely affected by a force or agent <the schools are victims of the social system>: as a (1): one that is injured, destroyed, or sacrificed under any of various conditions <a victim of cancer> <a victim of the auto crash> <a murder victim> (2): one that is subjected to oppression, hardship, or mistreatment <a frequent victim of political attacks> b: one that is tricked or duped <a con man's victim>
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[TeddyKGB]

"Perfect machines"?

He created us perfect, but the Fall is responsible for our maladies --- past and present.

Oh, right. The Fall. The thing that God did but that you call by a different name so that you can say that Adam did it to himself somehow but winkwink we know who's really in control but plausible deniability and stuff.

 

[Naraoia]

Do these not disprove the whole eye ball argument by showing there are people born who are not perfectly built as ID claims?

@AV: It seems this thread is about ID. ID tries to masquerade as science, so I don't think they'll be using the Fall as an explanation any time soon.

As a man with Asperger Syndrome I would like to know.

Sometimes I think I'm at least borderline Asperger's too... (well, I don't know what to do with people and I keep bumping into furniture anyway )

 

[AV1611VET]

@AV: It seems this thread is about ID.

Then why does it start off, "If God Created..."?

ID tries to masquerade as science, so I don't think they'll be using the Fall as an explanation any time soon.

That could be true --- I don't know --- I have no idea what all ID teaches.

If this thread is about ID, I'll graciously [and gladly] bow out.

 

[Naraoia]

Then why does it start off, "If God Created..."?

Well, I was just guessing, maybe not well enough. Given that he specifically mentioned ID (which, incidentally, uses good design to support an intelligent designer), and assuming he's heard "the Fall" countless times, I thought ID was the main target.

True, the OP is a bit unclear on which breed(s) of creationism it is about.

That could be true --- I don't know --- I have no idea what all ID teaches.

I don't claim a very deep knowledge of ID, but they seem quite careful to avoid obviously fundie things like literalism.

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, I was just guessing, maybe not well enough. Given that he specifically mentioned ID (which, incidentally, uses good design to support an intelligent designer), and assuming he's heard "the Fall" countless times, I thought ID was the main target.

True, the OP is a bit unclear on which breed(s) of creationism it is about.

I don't claim a very deep knowledge of ID, but they seem quite careful to avoid obviously fundie things like literalism.

Given that where ID came from, I have no doubt it breeds confusion.

For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.